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    Ino's perfection

    Thanks for those pictures. First time I've seen all 3 of those bulls. Really appreciate you posting them. Emulation 31 has a picture here: http://www.puregrassbeef.com/photos_of_famous_angus_sires Through EXT he probably has pretty significant influence in the Angus population today. CSU...
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    Beef Friesian

    You linked the Genuine JBH podcast with the Alden episode in that other thread. I assuming you have already listened to the Johnny Hook ones but if not you might enjoy them. To me the 70s would have been just such a fascinating time to be in the cattle business. You can probably tell by all...
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    Beef Friesian

    This is some of what I am curious about. I'm curious how far this is from the original F1 cross and if her daughters were similar consistency. You can definitely see the vision of the type and kind laid out all those years ago and kept that way for going on 50 years. That's such an admirable...
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    Beef Friesian

    Cool handout. Lots of good pictures and descriptions in there.
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    Beef Friesian

    I've never come across that link before Hopster. Really good. Thanks.
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    Beef Friesian

    Page 2-3 in the Import picture you might recognize the young guy in the middle with the goatee :-)
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    Beef Friesian

    Random aside looking at those pictures and the 1983 one versus the 1912 one, I annoys me anytime you see the front feet standing on higher ground than the back feet in photos especially when they try to like photoshop grass in there in the most recent ones. I've always been curious why did they...
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    Beef Friesian

    I think they were just the dual purpose Friesians from Europe but named that way as branding to distinguish from Holsteins in NA that lacked so much muscle and are hard doing, I think. Also, I think I remember reading the name Holstein in NA was administrative mistake on import so it was...
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    Beef Friesian

    Lol, poor guy.
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    Beef Friesian

    Thanks for posting. Nice to see the purebred Chi's and The Black Answer cross too. Was ino pretty similar to ildeno? I guess Tim had both ino's perfection and ildeno on his farm at the same time? ino too? Looks like The Black Answer is 3/4 Ildeno and 1/4 Amerifax. Was it pretty typical...
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    Beef Friesian

    Funny you list those ones cause those are the ones I had in mind. I basically wanted to see the original Friesians (like the 1912 one above) and then how they looked crossed. The 1912 one looks nothing like the holsteins in the catalogues today. I have tried to find some names in the past but...
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    Shorthorn bulls

    Came across this website with lots of cool bull pictures I thought might be interesting to share. https://www.heritageshorthorn.org/classic-bulls/a-to-h https://www.heritageshorthorn.org/classic-bulls/j-to-z
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    Beef Friesian

    Yeah, definitely. However, I'd feel bad taking up his time just to nerd out on cow pedigrees and breeding. I see some pictures of the older MRIJ cattle and they really look like how you describe. I have a feeling they would be closely related to the red and white friesians as well. They also...
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    Beef Friesian

    @knabe do you know if anyone tried to line breed and improve the beef friesians that came over or did they go immediately into crosses and only used that way?
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    Beef Friesian

    I think beef friesian just refers to the concept that they were well muscled and easier fleshing and suitable for beef production. When I look at the catalogues today for what people call out as british friesian they seem to be a bit beefier than the ones with more NA holstein pedigree. They...
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    Beef Friesian

    I'm curious how much overlapping pedigrees there are. I don't know when Boney brought the three beef friesians over and if any of those were used outside of his herd.
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    Beef Friesian

    From everything I have read they really should have caught on more. If not beef friesian directly, the amerifax cross. Mostly just interested in learning about them at this point and how the crosses looked. Would maybe one day be interested in just playing around with the cross from a hobby...
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    Beef Friesian

    I'm fascinated by the history with beef friesians and amerifax. I'd like to learn more about the beef friesians and who was involved in starting amerifax and how that process went. From google searches, I have seen posts from @knabe posting a picture of Shandon Ali and mentioning other bulls...
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