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    Heatwave still king, wins another major N.A.I.L.E 2012

    The thing is everyone can know, but if an official protest isnt filed then the show management is most likely going to just view it as speculation and move on without taking action.  I mean if they launched an investigation into every acusation that was thrown around at the show then they would...
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    Heatwave still king, wins another major N.A.I.L.E 2012

    Just because he sold doesnt necessarily mean it was cleared.  The sale of champions has to go on as scheduled, they cant reschedule or postpone.  They cant withhold the steer due to controversy then stick him in at a later date if he is cleared because then it is to late. I have seen many shows...
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    what is the best heatwave clone

    I second what TCF said.  From a breeding standpoint all clones are genetically the same.  The only difference would be some mitochondrial DNA difference from the clone and the original, but that is due to residual mitochondrial DNA in the host embryo and will not be passed along in the sperm...
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    Hair Question(:

    Our fans never get turned off unless there are no cattle in the barn, which is rare. I would get fans on him and rinse him daily.  If it is warm enough that he is sweating, it is warm enough that short of slicking him, he would probably still lose hair even if you body clipped him. Remember that...
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    How can people justify buying a steer for $25,000?

    For the vast majority show cattle arent a business, they are a hobby, therefore there isnt really anyway to justify any price, whethere it be $1 or $100k, other than the pleasure they receive from the animal they buy.  I admit I had a pretty nice savings account when I graduated highschool, I...
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    Heatwave still king, wins another major N.A.I.L.E 2012

    I believe he is a Walks Alone, I am gonna take sides with the person who owns him and shows him.  But that raises a good point, how many of the claims can you really believe? I mean look at the online sales, how many calves do you see out there that they claim are out of the clean up bull, you...
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    AI vs Not

    The main reason for AI over just running a bull live cover is genetic diversity and the availability of superior genetics more easily.  If you run a bull with your cows and dont do anything else then you have less genetic diversity in that calf crop.  Also, unless all of your cows are pretty...
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    Sullivan vs. Weaver fitting products

    From my experience the oils, conditioners, shampoos, adhesive removers are very comparible.  I agree the red paints blend and match better, but I think that is partially because they dont cover as well.  As far as paints go I think Sullivans covers a lot better but I think that is why it is...
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    Smilin Bob

    I have seen some really nice calves out of him.  But again I have liked him since he was at Denver and people texted me how awesome he was on the washrack wet, not just when he was all dolled up.  I think he produces really functional calves that feed out well. We have one in the barn that was...
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    breeding heifers vs. market heifers **pics**

    The bggest difference has already been covered by some, but for me it comes down to what is most important in those classes. BREEDING- Most important features are soundness, volume, and femininity...if she is good enough to compete with them all in those areas and has the extra thickness, then...
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    Guess her age and breed

    I am gonna take 2 stabs in dark...High % Maine with either Angus, Simmi, or both
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    Going rate for Clipping & Fitting

    For me it all depends.  I am big on helping kids learn, so if the kid is there and actively participating/learning then I will often do it for little more than just expenses being payed.  But if the kid isnt trying to learn or for open shows, etc. Then I charge $30 to clip, $50 to fit per head...
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    THE FAIRNESS POLICE

    Here is my 2 cents on why no rules out there are about what happens  at the show is gonna amount to a hill of beans over which steer, heifer, goat, pig, or whatever other animal wins the show.  It is because YOU CANT WIN A SHOW AT THE SHOW.  Thats right, you win the show during the months...
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    Barn Blind

    ^^^^I thought that was the case in any case of barn blindness??? (clapping) I generally use the term "barn blind" to describe anytime that we dont see the animals in our barns correctly.  Sometimes its thinking they are a lot better than they are, but I think it is just as often the other way...
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    Judges on the Mic

    I agree this has been one of the best true debates we have seen on here in a while.  Most of the time they turn into big ol arguments with name calling and degrading each other if everybody doesnt agree.  This time, even though there was difference of opinion, everyone remained civil and seemed...
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    Judges on the Mic

    I dont believe the winner of the  live show has to be the winner of the carcass show, but when the results of the 2 contest are completely backwards from each other then yes I think we have an issue.  We are never going to be spot on with the live show and carcass contests, none of us have x ray...
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    Judges on the Mic

    I understand the part about steers getting to the feed trough, however for me that comes into play in a prospect or progress show.  In those situations then yes I 100% agree that they need to be totally sound.  But in a MARKET show, a judge should be evaluating those steers as if he were going...
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    Judges on the Mic

    ^^^^^Good point, something I didnt even think about when reading these points, but those tight strided, post legged steers that cant walk are often tight middled.
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    Judges on the Mic

    I tend to find it goes the opposite way to much myself.  Yes I believe we have to recognize structural issues, but its a market show.  In a market show we are supposed to be judging the animals as if they are going to hang on the rail that day, in that situation product and market...
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    Pic of a calf i went a looked at today (i think hes a keeper)

    He looks awfully young to tell a whole lot on.  At this point you cant see any major flaws, looks like he may be pretty stylish.  With his head turned to you like that its hard to evaluate front end very well.  But at this point I would say he is definately worth keeping an eye on
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