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Don't know Mark. Possibly not! Sanitary protocols are very exclusionary for old semen.

Hi guys. I own some semen from old bulls. Semen produced on 60's and 70's from Shorthorn, Hereford and Aberdeen Angus bulls. I need know how much could cost each straw him, as have some enquiries to sale some ones. Some examples of bulls I own, RR Rito 8799 (AA), Pinnacle of Wye (AA), PBC 707 1M...

Black noses....OK. White wild cattle is said to be part of the original stock that produced the improved Durham. Many literature describe it. On middle 1700, Charles Colling used a half blood red Galloway bull that produces Foljambe...Galloway have black noses. It was described as Alloy blood...

Mark...agree and don't agreed! Yes, the list of double muscling breeds have lots of ones with Shorthorn influence as Belgian Blue, Maines, Normando (discovered it soon). But, all these  ones also have on the other side of your genetics native local breeds from northwest Europe. So the DM gene...

Guys, we are on the 2019.....we have tools to check pedigrees veracity. To clear some questions, just analyze the DNA for paternity ....Enticer, Great White Hope, or anyother bull....but, publish the results here! Talk, even a parrot talks! Surely I'm the one most curious person in this chat to...

What theory......same one as Enticer,

Last year, I inspected for register purposes some calves. Three one were discarded for double muscle. Never got it until this date in Brazil. As technical inspector for register in brazilian herd book, I cut off summarelly the double muscled, and incentive the breeders to NEVER AGAIN use similar...

Mutation, the historical cattle industry official excuse for adulteration.

Thanks Lucky. So, if SHO show a better resuly on GeneStar using AA markers, it's superior to blackies! Also, maybe Waukaru are really poor!. Will analyse my ones! Thanks!

So, for tenderness and marbling, any suggestion for molecular markers? Igenity is a good source? Will analise some animals and wish not expend time and money on non accurate tests.

Agree, it's possible. As some DM animals are appearing on Normande too. Also can be an atavic gene hidden on European population - France, Belgian and The Netherlands. By the way, with high influx genetics in and out on Shorthorn, we can reach to a point that to ask ....How was first created...

DM in Shorthorn can came from Chianina and Maines. UK Shorthorn are full of DM, they used Maine Anjou massivelly as well as some NA genetics with Maine, as Trump on ancestors. Here, I inspected some calves for register, found 3 DM. Descarded! Sired by a canadian bull, that show a strong muscle...

In my world, a more tender product equals happier customers which lead to more customers. In order to find a niche, your product has to stand out. Tenderness is above all else critical to a good eating experience PERFECT! PERFECT! Shorthorn must to got to origin. A maternal breed with...

Great. A clear answer. Good! Wish more info like that, on both road sides (breeds). Sure not all are like to open the black secrets!

Maybe the old lessons on cattle breeding for look a masculine head on bulls can again return. My first view is for lenght and meat cover on back. Numbers and heads are wast time if the are no meat on the back, deep ribes and long loin!

By the way!! Who is Kodiak? It's a Maine, a Chi-Maine? What a hell is this bull?

On nature....a deformed calf is a easy dinner for wolves. Natural selection. Not necessary use a pedigree bull carrier only for fashion, or worst, a non informed carrier!

Accidentally was the best world to explain! Too many accidents on Herefords, Angus......on Shorthorn too, but are official accidents!

Agree. I known the Argentinian Shorthorn. He isn't a good exemplar of the breed there.

Yes, depending of bull, we can get outstanding animals or just mongrels without class!