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They look really good and seem packed with performance.  I'd be curious to see an updated picture of the white bull.

I don't disagree.  I just wish these metrics existed (backed by decent sample sizes) and had targets to give frame of reference.  Typically, I've seen them exist within herds, but not really mentioned on a larger scale.

To produce the ideal herd of commercially acceptable shorthorns, what will your measure of success be?  Specifically?  What's the combination of metrics and upper/lower control limits you will target, and then market as a consistent, high quality alternative to what's already being successfully...

Looks good John!  I remember seeing him last summer.  Do you know his registration number? 

Shenstone Albino

Fair Acres Sultan, Renown, [Fill in the Blank] Sultan???  Impressive how big they were back then.

I believe this is Avondale or his son Lord Avondale.  I don't know much about these bulls so I'd be interested in the history lesson.

We all know the color probability w shorthorns when mating red, white, and roan so I won't go into that.  However, from my experience I recall 3W Payoff throwing "loud" colors regardless of dam color.  I also remember a lot of red neck roans and some other "wild" colors by dividend when bred to...

Payoff was linebred dividend with a couple shots of dual (dairylou and R180)...he was also a sire of the year...his daughters were unbeatable at the time...I'm guessing he was in the 8+ frame range since he won at louisville in the late 80's....the other bulls siting champions around that time...

I love these old pics!  If I get time I'll scan my favorites which would be anything from Denver in 1987.  I think Seven T's Greg and Alexander were grand and reserve champion bulls (and you can't see the people standing behind them!).  If I could go back in time to one Denver show it'd be that...

I haven't seen the recent Shorthorn Country yet, but I'm glad to see a Dividend son being promoted. There's always talk about what to breed clubby bred cows to.  I don't have a herd of clubby cattle, but if I did I'd breed them to a full irish THF shorthorn bull (from the  irish Leader...

Good observations...must be a lot of demand!  One stop shop for semen, dresses, and tops! lol

I wish more people would post pictures of their cattle.  Having moved to an area without much livestock production I don't get to visit herds very often.  And, I get tired of seeing the same old thing in Shorthorn Country.  They say that a key to business failure is to stop selling your own...

I believe Cedar Curve Farrah was a two time champ in the early 90's...would have to confirm though.

Seems like going with Maine influence shorthorns would be more for maintaining a "show ring look", or keeping a club-calf revenue source open...rather than meeting the needs of the commercial industry.    When i think of the high birth weight stereotype i typically think of the modern maine...

This is the one i picked out as well.  His condition looks heavy, but I was surprised by the comment about his grass test results.  If he's putting that weight on in the pasture I like him even better.

I purchased it online.  Google the title and you'll find a bunch of sites selling it.  I think I paid $30. The only picture of him I had seen before this was in a Lazy D ad in an old Shorthorn Country...I think it was a color pic of him on pasture - not sure though.

You got it!  I'm curious if you or anyone had seen this picture of him before.  I hadn't until I purchased a book last week titled Shorthorns in the 20th Century UK and Ireland.  There's a chapter on Irish shorthorns that's really interesting.  It includes this picture of Deerpark Leader and a...

He's not Ayatollah (when you think of Ayatollah think giant, solid red, Illawara/Shorthorn/? cross.)  Here's a clue...believe it or not, he is a common ancestor of the following widely talked about Steer Planet Shorthorn bulls: Trump, Double Stuff, Proud Jazz, Timeline, Sonny, Gizmo, Wild...

Here's a rarely seen picture of a very influential Shorthorn bull.  It might be easy to guess, but I think I've only seen one other picture of him.  Name the bull!