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I would be concerned with 6 fat as well..  I've always been told not to go over 5 without concern. what other kind of protein supplements do you have out there? Fish meal?  how about alfalfa pellets for roughage, and protein?

Do you think the 'fluffiness' of the feed might counteract that though?  Of course, I mix my feed with 200 beet pulp and 200 cottonseed, instead of just using one ingrediant.  My feed is bulky enough that 40 pounds barely fits into standard 50 pound bags... I suppose my cottonseed is fluffier...

Rolled barley and corn are pretty similar.  Barley will put a 'harder' touch on one though. best thing I an say, is try it for a couple of months and give it plenty of time to either work or fail...

Half blood Maine, 7/8 Shorthorn-- meaning he will sired purebred shorthorns from purebred shorthorn cows. This bull is sired by Redline (PB Red Maine) with Vortec/ Gizmo/ Improver 57 and a triple shot of Elbee "Royal" cow line on the bottom.  This bull is made, bred, and expected to be a heifer...

I agree- were they clean or carrier?  Or does it matter?  to me, show steers and market heifers can be hot- who cares? Like I said above, we all have it, we all want to get rid of it, but nobody can... Back to topic-  it seems like the 'other crowd' wants this thread derailed too. 

Is breeding a THC/ PHAC to a THF/ PHAF any different than breeding a  THF/ PHAF to  a double carrier? It's the same.  The massive ignorance being overlooked- is trying to find a double clean, and breeding it to a double clean- to produced a good one. 

reread.. I  ETA That is not even close to being true. Why pretend you know something about the club world when you dont even breed for them. Stick to your maine/shorthorn whatever they are. Hey crab ass--- those words are in reference to shorthorn steer producing cows.  Find me a shorthorn...

absess, or tooth problem?  Either one could be?  I'd try and fix it.

I have seen it done once, but more so as a joke.  When I was little, we had a supply man deliver to the farm monthly- one trip our dog bit him- he was judging a show I was going to the next week, and I was to be the only exibitor at that show in our breed.  He told me, I'd not win a single...

reread.. I  ETA

prediction:  - based off the other polls, and the history of this site's followeres-- IB wins. (pop)

I was unaware of any Candians promoting THC bulls- I'd like for you to show me one, as I'm sure it would be the only one that would be worth using from above the border. 

We are using a herd bull here on our heifers- that is sired by an Ali son- and dammed by an Ali daughter.  His picture is first-- was a nice bull as a calf- and like many herd bulls should be- has lived a rough life out with cows- so he doesn't look like much today.  We have not bred this bull...

I heard quite the story about you, Snappy, and SEK>

Garris thinks SEK has some.

Another bull that wasn't in Denver...  Hoping to do some clipping and picture taking this weekend.  He's 12 months old, and been running with 10 heifers for just over a month now.  Grass hay, and a worn out stalk field.

sound is about as accurate of a description as me saying your animal is pretty... it can mean 100 different things. structurally sound, sound moving, sound skeleton, sound muscled, sound traveleing.. Usually indicates good structured.

He's usually pretty far away from sentences talking of show steers. Carl:  How about your little snappy bull?  is he heifer safe?  Yet can produce a good one?  Looking for something to breed to Redline daughters first time around.

hard whiskey is also clean, wherease the old man is PHAC