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arguement could be made for blue roan, or white... but the best option would be black/ white mixed.

Does not every semen sales outfit known not carry it?

While I agree with you on the hair and TH- there are exceptions. This calf was yanked from the pasture- has 6 inches of hair..  and is TH Free by parentage...

I just praise the Candadian lords that he allows people, his hommies, to visit this site--  I love those original Okies...  Without people like you Frosty, this site would be so emotionless. 

let them calve to him- Interested to see the results

I also just remembered him.

Thank God their is a purist on this planet.  Holy heaven, I'm stoked one non liar person exists... 

Bullet point 1 wants non- carriers. Carrier: Polar Express Kool BR Windstar Goldmine Non- Carrier SS Super Sport Flashback Eskimo leggs Leggs Dividend ZTA Smooth Criminal Candian bulls Red Maine bulls (3/4 shorthorn) and I'm sure there is more- just have to think about what bulls I've...

thought I'd put a pic of a couple JD on here...  1- heifer in the middle...  from Elbee 150G dam 2- K-Kim Vortec / T-Bone dam 3- also from a Elbee 150G dam.  Atleast 3/4 sib to heifer above, I don't think it's a full sister- have to do some checking. Have a few more calves from JD. My take: ...

Interesting thread to bump up... I've got a few to add at a later time.

beet pulp P.A. is serious, and it's already pretty far north.  last year I was present when it was found in central IL.

full brother?  Did he have enough ace?

I thought stacking Trump on trump on trump was the cool thing to do in the shorthorn breed? Justin:  name me some of the better ones, I'm seriously interested.  had someone asking me the other day about brothers to the GOD...

this calf is bad enough through the tailhead to be double muscled.

Not to continue to argue, but did you read what I wrote?  I said, RA, DC or Navajo don't have Trump in them.. Obviously, I knew a SULL bull had trump in it, but only one of the cows had him in her...  One shot of TRUMPS sire, is by no means, and I quote 'pretty heavy trump'... speaking of...

I agree with above, but I'd sure find one valuable trait to select for first- and then focus on hair... A little elbow grease goes a long way with hair too.

that pedigree isn't unique, it's black...  hell anyone can do that.. EXT is all over the place.

I was unaware of Radio Active, or Dixie Chic having Trump in them.  I'm certain Navajo doesn't have him either... 

two years ago, I would have told you not to believe a singel section of the shorthorn EPDs...  However, they've been 'modified' in that time frame-- and so the EPD's do a better job of reflecting BW potential... Calving ease, and birthweight would be comparible to nearly every other major show...

Would he weigh more than 1000?