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Diana, This will probably bring the roof down on me again, but here I go anyway, as you have received no responses. From the symptoms and brief history you provided I have two suspicions. 1. salt/mineral salt overdose 2. PEM induced by excess sulfur. The condition you described can be passive...

I believe I already answered that and I thought I made it perfectly clear. Perhaps I'm have problems comprehending your question. Could you be more clear on what you mean by,” an ax to grind with “. SL

Here is another case of sulfur toxic poisoning. Make of it what you will. SL Accidental Sulfur Poisoning in a Group of Holstein Heifers http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1680409/

cowman 52 FYI, my grand kids are being fed this beef is school  and they love McDonald’s who also serve this beef  and I would hate to find out 10 years from now that they have brain damage from eating toxic beef. Do you have any grand kids?? But as I said: no one is forcing you to read my...

Cowman 52 & kanbe, FYI, no one is forcing you yo read my posts. So if you don't like what I post, please don't read them, as they seem to upset you. You do know personal attacks are not permitted on the board,  don't you! SL

Sorry for the repetitive topics. All I was trying to do was brake 5 years of research, evidence and field trials down to make it eraser to understand. Is it OK to post pics from photobucket on here? Cab, Re: I can not say with absolute certainty, but I can tell you this. Because the product is...

No, but I heard that name mentioned on the CT board. But he was gone before I got there. To make others in the cattle industry aware of the dangers of feeding industrial grade byproducts. And to improve the image of our industry in the eyes of the general public, so they will feel comfortable...

Dit in mo Re: Yes, all 3 of us whohad problems, have been down that route, and they were no help. All we got was a ½ hour  regurgitation of the same sales pitch about proper nutrition that they gave us when they sold us on using it.   And what is the sulfur content in your ration ? SL

Around here ( TN ) a heifer is a female calf and a young cow. which includes a first time heifer and some time even a second time heifer. Here you can buy a bred heifer with a calf by her side and still be buying a heifer. They are know as 3 in 1s. in the action ring. Heiferette is as I stated...

A word I haven't see is: Heiferette It has also morphed to mean: A heifer that has been spayed. This procedure is some times used by breeders to protect a blood line. SL

Hamburgman, Re: That all sounds familyer. I had 4 different vets look at 10 and they all diagnosed it as polio. The first vet I tried gave me 4 syringes to use on one. I do remember him saying it was thiamine and something else. Gave it for 4 days. It didn't do much so I dispatched it along...

Ejoe326, I have feed many different DDG many times over my life, including brewery grain,  to dairy cattle, cow/calf operations and feedlots and never had a problem. BUT, they were all from a food grade plant. NOT an industrial grade plant. And there lies the problem. If I knew which plant (...

BTDT, Re: What I do is cut and paste what I want to quote to my “ MS word “ and type [*quote] in front of it and [*/quote] behind it. WITH OUT the *. Re: Sure can, but you can't send a sample until after the delivery is made, now can you. Re: That is impossible as it is in every feed that...

Special Report: Lost hooves, dead cattle before Merck halted Zilmax sales http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/30/us-zilmax-merck-cattle-special-report-idUSBRE9BT0NV20131230 As I have seen first hand, cattle lose their hoofs when fed large doses of sulfur, I'm inclined to believe Merck. I...

Is your steer suffering from sulfur toxicity? As there have been more cases reported lately. The National Research Council guidelines indicate that a 533 kg crossbred cow consuming 11.14 kg of feed daily (approximately 2% body weight) would have a maximum tolerated daily dose of 44.6 g of...

Ejoe, Here is the problem. When you buy DDG or DDGS in bulk there is no analysis sheet that comes with it to determine what the sulfur content is. And each load can be different. I tried my darndist to get one from A E Staley and was told to have it anilized as all lods are different. You would...

Thanks Jason, I was thinking along the lines of cattle related as a whole, rather than just steer related. If I have one that is maybe a little far out there, I will run it by you by PM, now that I know where PM is. If you don't mind. Example: USDA & FDA  news, Bio-solids as fertilizer etc How...

Yes, Polioencephalomalacia can cause death!  I see it from time to time. Distiller's grain products - whether from a 'fuel' ethanol plant or a whiskey distillery or brewery - are a good feed supplement which can be fed to cattle.  Yes, sulfur content of some byproduct/coproduct feeds, like DDG...

Luck, I would like to discuss this case with you. Do you agree with the below statements? You can diagnose PEM by the symptoms but can only confirm your diagnoses by a necropsy. In the Walmart case, no necropsy is possible, so you have to rely on the symptoms to determine why these animals...

Hello Lucky, nice to see you again. Why don't you introduce yourself, as I did. ***REMOVED BY MODERATOR - NAME CALLING - WARNING SENT*** How disappointing. That cost you some of the respect I have for you. Why don't we try to keep it on a professional level over here? What say. SL