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Gavan Sensational, pictured out with the cows before he went to the sale. On grass, NO supplementary feeeding. Frame score 8. Weighed before he was sold, coming in at 1,009 KG.

jade x 80c. White polled at 3 months

My Jade x 80C heifer,(who's a maternal sister), has the same thickness as your 5Y bull calf. She is in calf at the moment to our  junior stock bull by 24S. Her full sib is in-calf to the Samurai 46T bull.

I spend money to make money. I buy embryos for 400 - 1,000 CDN $ and resell them, as well as implant the pick for my own use. I also import and sell semen at a 40% mark up. Do the math. That's why I own my own farm and house, and am just about to purchase a neighbouring farm too, and I don't...

Lol. There's no danger of ANY foreign purchaser phoning you looking to purchase stock, semen or embryos. Trust me on this one. Trev, can I leave you with a two part question, 1.) What's your average bull sale price, and 20. How many show winners or champions have you bred or have your customers...

I like you, I don't love you but I like you. Lol. Oh Trev, I'm sorry but your opinions don't count for anything with me, whereas mine obviously do with other people. So far this year I've spent $80,000 on Shorthorn and Angus genetics at ALTA Cedar (again), plus two other well known Shorthorn...

I like you because you're funny. Somehow I doubt if you and I will ever meet. I don't think we'd be mixing in the same social circles! Lol.

OMG is that Waylon Jennings. Imagine, he must have made a shed load of money from Rednecks buying his whining , and he still can't afford a bar of soap!!!! It's great that your great-grand-father came from Ireland, but the genes are so diluted now Trev it ain't worth mentioning. You need some...

Now when did I say I was an Irish purist??????? The Irish bulls worked so well on the Canadian and American cows, I thought it was time our Transatlantic friends could return the favour. You will notice that I was very selective in the ranches that I dealt with, namely Eionmor and Alta Cedar, to...

Ah Trev, don't be like that. We both know that without the Irish cattle  guys like you  wouldn't have a breed to try and screw up! We brought Shorthorn cattle in to the real world, added milk and functionality so you would have something to mess up in your spare time. I bet when you were a boy...

AH diddums. I'm sorry if my comments made Oldwoman or Olson and Trevor feel uncomfortable, but sometimes the truth does have a sting. My advice is don't worry your pretty little head with the paperwork, and just run your longhorns, I'm sorry, Shorthorn's, as commercials and we'll all be happy...

If people want to breed hybred or mongrel cattle, let them. It just bugs me when they want to register them as part of a vanity project.

I thought this thread was about SHORTHORNS, not mongrel cattle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've heard it all now. Gonewest remarked; "Cow Families" are nothing more than a marketing / promotional tool that have no genetic or mathematical base in fact. .    Gonewest, I think you've gone a little too far west. I think you're so far west you can taste salt water. Firstly, how can any...

Well for starters not a mention of the Deerpark Kilrush line which produced the original Deerpark Leader who was born  in 1967, and how about the Deerpark Strawberry line? It's just amazing to me how breeders also change a family line name at a whim and try and make it sound more 'showbiz'...

I think the key to this post guys is in the title 'Cow Families'! Whilst one outstanding female may have brought a particular tribe to breeders' attention, you know the old saying 'one swallow doesn't make a summer'. In my opinion , to qualify for consideration a cow family must have made an...

JTM. I really enjoyed reading your post. I'm sure it had a few people squirming uncomfortably in their seats. You'll probably get some replies expressing deep indignation at the thought that these bastions of the breed who use hype to built an aura around themselves and their cattle have in...

Birth weight is definitely something that needs to be kept under watch in the breed. Whilst progress has been made in adding thickness and muscle whilst retaining the breeds famed maternal traits we can not let a thing like high birth weights undo all the good work that has been done to get the...

It's great to see bulls of quality coming to the fore besides these big hard fleshed beasts that for so long seemed to be the norm in the breed. Whilst we have imported quality bulls from Canada like Eionmor Mr Gus 80C, Eionmor Ultra 8C, Alta Cedar Lad's Legacy 14P, Samurai 46T, Code Red 24s and...

Thanks for posting that new pic of Storm 11U. He looks very well in it. I plan to head over for Agribition this year so hopefully I will get to see him in the fllesh this Autumn.