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That's as good a looking shorthorn bull as you could hope for!

Anyone have any experience with gw-wbf substance 820y he looks like a good bull. I am not a fan of the Gardiner angus in his pedigree tho.

I like what I have seen with a sim x shorthorn x angus. Thought it maybe a good cross to try I am still in the pondering stages. My dad runs a bunch of cows and when he got there they were using sim angus bulls on a angus hereford x cows. Everytime we brand, the cows we sort off a big percentage...

If a person wanted to use a Simmental or sim angus bull on shorthorn angus cross cows with the hopes of making good docile commercial cows. What would it be? my preference would be to keep the simmi down to 1/4 to 1/3 in the resulting calves.

I would sure like to see some more pics of the drover bull he looks like a good one. His side looks about as good as you could make one. What's his age in this picture?

Angus: hsaf bando 1961

Not bashing either bull but imperative is definatly my type of bull. I know lots of people who run range bulls that look like him... big bodied and massive in their muscle and they make good range Bulls. rawhide is probably a good bull for what he is a calving ease bull who brings some good...

I would be interested in seeing the pictures if you have them.

He's a good looking bull! Any ideas what he weighs now? I would have guessed from his calf picture that he would have a little more depth in his flank. But he's still one heck of a bull that should put some power in his calves!

I would like to see some of the leader style cattle crossed up on waukaru patent or Jsf navigator and see what the end product would be like.

He definatly doesn't travel right looks like he is to straight in his shoulders and pretty big shouldered. I don't have a dog in the fight here but there's a lot better bulls out there that don't have that amount of sheath or look that hard doing.

I would be interested to see pictures of either of the woodland myrtle cows listed above and a picture of Irish plumber

He is the sire of 8419. We had a half brother to  8419 by the myrtle 213 cow he was a payoff son that was extreme and he sired some pretty good cattle for the time. I am guessing there had to be some cow power in myrtle 213 to produce good cattle out of the types of bulls like plumber and payoff.

my ancestors are from Virginia but they migrated west about 1862 but that's funny how someone you've never met is breeding the same breeds of cattle with the same name in another part of the u.s

That's funny must be a different Jim Kibler, that's my grandpas name as well. At that point in te we didn't have any angus but did have a white bull named Dingo. I know there some mor Kiblers back east must be a different one.

Not sure what rnreed means I ve never heard of albo before this thread.

We did 5 minutes

Reason I say quick and I ment quick and accurate. We used infusion pipettes witha 2 cc syringe on it and I just didn't feel we were able protect it from temperature change as much as with the standard straw technique now. So I felt time was of the essence.

We used amps last year and normally I do my own ai work but have a buddy that works for abs breed the cows with them and we had just about 80% conception rate with just giving a lute shot to synch them up. If you are just a so so breeder I would have someone that a professional do it due to the...

Calves look great. The roan calf has tons of style and knows it!