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I am really not sure what makes you think firewater, and some of the other bulls mentioned won't work in the clubby deal.  I don't know that the conversation ever specified he wanted clubby either.  He just wants to moderate his cow, and add some milk.  He isn't gonna moderate much with the bull...

I have never seen a purebred out of him, have seen several good steers though.  The one thing I would worry about with Chunkey Monkey is, some of the steers I have seen can be pretty straight.  But thick and full of hair

It is very sad that people resort to stealing from youth that work very hard to get what they have.  I helped organize Charolais Junior Nationals this past summer.  On the last night of the show while all the kids were at their awards ceromony, SOMEONE went through the barn and cleaned the place...

I am a vermillion fan myself, as I have two sons of him that I use.  Very good cattle, and calve easy, and are making very nice cows from what I saw at Serhienko's

I like all of your suggestions Mark.  But correct me if I am wrong, but isn t Kaboom a MXS Vermillion, out of a freedom cow.  And I will say this about MOGO.  He was an awesome Yearling,  But look really Bad in KC as a 2 year old, I was gonna use him,,but as he matured I changed my mind

Not Sure what makes you think the firewaters are going to be to big for the clubby guys Freddy.  I happen to own the bull,,and can tell you that He is making great clubby cows, as well as great purebred females that fit the industry very well.  I have bred him to frame 8 cows and brought them...

If it was my cow I would start with Firewater.  In my opinion there is not a bull on the market that can compare to his added power, and eye appeal, that still make nice cows.  I have several firewater daughters in production.  They are making super nice cows, and good donors.  The maternal is...

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I have always Loves Denver.  Good Cattle, Great People, and Good Whiskey.  But I attended Agribition this year for the first time.  It is For sure the Denver of Canada. and Probably more fun.  Not the same caliber cattle, or not as nice of facilities,,,but WOW WHAT A PARTY!!

You are right there was not many bluegrass calves at agribition.  and just a couple Kaboom's.  But I can say I have seen allot of Bluegrass calves, and have used him on my own operation, with no success.  I have never seen Kaboom, or ever used him.  My opinion is based on the calves I saw at...

Don't have any Kabooms coming but saw some at agribition.  Really nice calves.  Blow the Bluegrass calves out of the water. 

I have my first Montezuma calves on the ground.  Very impressed so far.  Moderate  birth weights, lots of vigor, and appear to be big boned big footed calves.  You can put allot of hope in a baby calf.  But I think this bull will do good things for the breed.  Anybody else have calves on the...

In my opinion you would be allot happier with the firewaters.  They are making great cows, and have allot more performance than any bluegrass will ever have.    Blue grass has his place, but its as a heifer bull, thats it