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Personally, I think it's a waste of money. Plus, twin heifers are then useless. Also, twins rarely grow as well. But the biggest reason for me is because nobody enjoys calving twins.

Not too many hard drive cows out there worth much though.

Wade said he liked the 2tones better.

From my point of view a good mother cow is a wide headed broody type female with lots of capacity, I don't see that in I80's at all. They are longer from poll to mouth than a lot of other sires make, can be taller and lack body. Exceptions to everything I know. I80 is back by a super cow I know...

I certainly agree with you on their lack of "terminal phenotype". I guess fr

Anybody have any? Think they will work?

I80's won't make cows...they will make show heifers. He in no way should be called maternal.

I saw Justin's too, those i80 heifers are guna be awesome. But yes, best 2 bulls out there right now for making winners...and I mean show heifers for i80.

Have you seen any of these in person? Or just sit at home on the computer and see pictures, wayyyyyy more than "some" good i80 heifers, bulls proof is in the progeny.....

Like who? Besides Lautner..... I80 show heifers are tough to beat, went through a huge group yesterday and the i80's were way better than the jj's.

Is he a bull like Meyer 734 where the females are only valuable?

I believe was worlds better. Sugar rush was nice but NO neck extension.

I'd vote WA.

Just meant belly by volume and capacity. MAB will give you more of a monopoly body type while walks alone will sire more of a heat wave body type. Yes both bulls are carriers. Test your cow, but there are some crazy hairy Hannibal cows.

At stud they both looked great, personally I didn't think walks alone was any bigger than MAB at all. In terms of rib, MAB was also better. I worry about belly with walks alone when used on a Hannibal cow. I am a walks alone fan don't get me wrong but there are some things MAB is better at.

MAB alllllllllll the way!

Just want to visit and look at good cattle. What's the closest place?

In Houston now is anyone close by?

I hope the salty dog was a joke....

Personally I don't like either bull, I think there are way better options. Bodacious has a sloppy neck and salty dog I thought has awful feet at the Ohio beef expo when he was there.