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Didn't see anything overly impressive. Any monopoly genetics on your char would work very well.

Was just speaking in general on MAB not his maternal merit. Go look at i67 in stud...:

I wouldn't consider i67 maternal. And I think i80 genetics are too tight gutted for chars.

I think you will be very happy with MAB on that cow!

I think hair and bone will still be wanted, but keep clubby genetics out of the herd. Every true big time clubby breeder knows the importance of a strong maternal foundation. Good females that are bred right NEVER go out of style.

Wow. Even Better looks great.

Pic?

When's the big day?

I'm sure he does, I've been waiting to see something forever now haha.

Both bad. I am a fan of both bulls but usually the calves are hot.

Is this someone we shouldn't do business with?

In Indiana here there's no difference.

Understood. Griswold had some amazing hard whiskey heifers.

He has hardly had any calves? Lol

So then he has 0 maternal value.

From his bulls I would try that Hard Whiskey x Hairrietta first if it were me, but that's just me lol. I'm partial to the great Hairrietta I guess.

Really wanting to see this new MAB x heat wave Trausch and Wade bought. And the new maternal sibs to I believe and i80.

What about his pedigree shows he will be a steer producer?

I'm going to bet he will just fade away in a year or two with limited use. His picture isn't all that flattering....

Any pictures out there yet? Haven't heard a thing yet....