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I am not sure where you are coming from on this one BTDT.To me joining with the other breeds would make our numbers more reliable and transparent.If what you say is true then that would infer that the other breeds are complicit in this '' dressing up'' of our epd's.It should also be noted that...

I have been to several and they are a great experience,I couldn't squeeze it in this year but I am going to drive over to Nick's and Barry's.

AJ the last I knew Dr.Beever was located east of the mississippi ;D

I dont remember all the details on the two bulls I had just the fact that they were different than the typical improver TH.I know there was a mutation called Outcast that was out there. I think you must be referring to the Scottish imports of the 30's 40's and 50's.I don't think it was defects...

I will get back to you on that.I have to go right now.It is pizza  and a movie night with my wife.

I had 2 bulls that had a different source of TH than improver.One died before I got to use him, the other was more costly 30 plus mature females that luckily had already begun to cull themselves to fertility and do ability. I dont think there were a whole lot of cases prior to 1980 since there...

Good conversation and ideas.Survivors in this business think like this.Optimum for your operation  needs to be the foundation as stated before.One more angle to bring in is the fact that if you keep replacements in your herd you need to think 10 years or longer down the road.You might make a...

It would be interesting to compare the data if someone like Eggbert had fed 1/2 his steers in a commercial feedlot.It would be important to send them to a yard familiar with feeding that type of cattle though to get a reliable comparison.

I agree with your thoughts guys but you didn't really address my question.Do most Shorthorns only have the ability to marble to a certain point say avg choice for example and then from that point forward they only deposit fat on the outside of the carcass. Nate you have your work cut out for...

So my question is this,Does the fact that a specific animal consistently produces low to avg.choice animals guarantee the fact that with a change in the feeding program or extension of a feeding program,a high percentage of those offspring will go prime?

Thanks for posting that Oakview.Definitely an historic herd.I read the article and was impressed with the fact that they ran a closed herd and in the 50's when the mainstream was chasing the pony fad they directed their efforts towards increasing the performance of their cattle.What was your...

He is a 4508 son reg#4202810,his maternal line has been my most fertile line since I bought the first one in 1974. He's roan and horned and I kept him a bull thats how much I think of him.His dam is white hence the color.I always keep one white cow since they are called the Red White and Roan.

Red Cows it sounds like you are tightening things up.I know you told me once but what was the herd your cows originated from again?Can you post a picture of Line One?Any 8c daughters in that bunch?

I watched on DV as well,the sale was solid from beginning to end.I can only imagine how it could have been with tolerable weather.Most encouraging to me was the strong interest from the commercial sector.The top selling 4508 son at 7200.00 went to a very large scale operator in Colorado.Over ...

Librarian,one thing I have found out for sure in this business is that you never quit learning.My most common phrase has come to be I thought I had seen it all. Here is an example of the variance we have been talking about.These are 2 linebred 2013 bull calves in my herd.They pretty much have...

My guess is it would be relative to the genetics you start with.If you bred bull A to his close relative and the pedigrees were diverse in their makeup there would be several animals that could potentially dominate.You keep the ones that fit your program and continue to tighten the noose with...

Knabe,do you have access to the Shorthorn books?I have yet to see a public study of the receipts vs.expenditures of the different segments of the breed.If there is that kind of deficit I think that kind of analysis would be valuable moving forward.

Good question XBAR,I think the biggest problem in finding out is that once a herd reaches that regression point there are few breeders willing to take it farther and few buyers willing to purchase those animals.So it is hard to say which decides the next mating in a program maximum outcross...

Thanks Ralph for posting those pictures the heifers look very functional and it will be very worthwhile to intensify those genetics.I agree with Duncraggen on those udders and also your attention to detail on the calving reports. Thanks for clarifying JTM on your thoughts I am anxious to see...

That is a compliment of the highest order Nate. :)You actually thought the 2 year old could turn out better than his sire when I posted his yearling picture earlier this year.