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  Ya I wish someone would explain how a bull is a -1.3 birth epd  when his dam is a 4.3 and his sire is 4.2.  :o

 Jill: I would like to think this hits real close to home for me as roycattle is my brother in law. I think what you are missing is that one would think there would be a shred of honesty among people in this business. I know there can be because I just spent the entire day and had dinner with a...

  Keep me posted on his calves. I would be interested in using him on heifers. I use a Red Angus bull Above and Beyond as of now. I am willing to try something new. He has a really cool look. What are his EPD's like(sorry if you posted them and I did not look). I will be in Nashville in march...

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  I like him!

  Picture of home.

  I have found "just because they are"   Jeff

  Soon as I find you a heifer!!!!

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  DCC Smokin Joe 157P    He is  clean both ways NBJ Gigolo Joe            He is  clean both ways as well. She needs something to give her some flank and rib depth.   Jeff

  Any Fatheads yet? I'm gonna change my user name to Mud Duck, we are ahole deep in it. I wish it would freeze!

 Nope, no offense taken. I consider myself a left of center horn breeder. We do our own thing...always have always will. I added some pictures of the non typical easy keepin kind. All our breeding!  Jeff

I would take the snow over the mud we have right now!!!!

 I would buy 600 acres and put my house in the middle. Surround it with dear food plots and hunt. Then I would have a house on the lake with a new 20 ft Ranger w/ 250 horse. Bass fishin in the summer dear hunt most of the winter.  I bet you would not of guessed that now would ya? I seen millions...

Is that a full sib to JOE?

  Jordan I have seen him in person. DO NOT USE HIM. He took a great picture. He has had his share of semen problems. He has a full brother that is really cool. I know the guy that bred him and I would tell him the same thing. Absolutely is the full brother. Go to Phildon Farms on Showsteers and...

He is a nice bull but he is about four ribs short. I realize forearm is a muscle indicator, but that dude is course shouldered. He is looks like he has more then enough set to his hind legs. I guess for me he is ok. He really does not show me anything that would lead me to believe he could be a...

<rock>   OZZY! OZZY!  We play Hard and loud in our barn. You know it is bad when my 11 yr old turns the radio down and says "dad that is to loud" if it's to loud you are to young to be in my barn!!!!

Witch Doctor something old school that could work.

  When I got to see him for the first time it was like a scene from Wayne's World.....I'm not worthy I'm Not worthy. That was the most impressive bull I may have seen.I can say I have never seen a bull with as deep of a stifle as him. He is #1 in my book. Joel is a pretty good cattle friend as...