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I would also throw in there Amen. We had a real nice heifer out of her but she was on the short side. Out of a short cow too though. But we really like her she is real deep and soggy.

So we had a heifer calf out of a first time heifer. She was a big calf...too big but she's here. Cow had trouble getting up at first but gets up now still doesn't move perfectly occasionally falls....definitely some nerve damage. But the calf is strong but can't seem to stand by itself. We can...

So we get our feed from a long ways away because we can get it real cheap. We usually save some of the old feed to mix with the new to get them started on the new batch. This time we ran out and had not an ounce left when we got the new stuff here. To top it off they had to change and...

I am sorry that some people on here were rude and insulting to you! That is never the right approach. I am sorry you have had a bad experience and I hope you can find the positives in it. I am very familiar with what you have experienced our sale is very much the same. My 10 yr old daughter...

WOW! I did not see this in the Stockman. I was actually at this show and followed the judges picks all day until that selection. I would not have even put that calf third in that class. I know that this stuff happens all the time, but I have NEVER seen it so blatant. Everyone was speechless...

I am curious to see what works for you! Keep us updated. We have been mainly tying ours and then slowly just trying to pet on them and brush on them. Then as we let them go try to get a few steps out of them and then let them go. They have seemed to gentle down pretty quick that way. I have...

I just wanted to say you are doing a good job. It was very smart to put your steer on here and get feedback. That is really using your head. And it takes some courage to put your steer on here to potentially get critiqued. But that is how you learn. Good job and good luck! (clapping)

I know you are dissapointed, but thats really not too bad (2nd Place)! Anyway, you should be proud of yourself for sticking with it. I have been a part of a few of those types of deals where the family just gives up. You kept pushing and thats what matters.

Oh and yeah he moves pretty free I would say. And yes this is something that just kind of came up. I would say in the last few weeks to month and the calf is about 6 months old.

Ok cool thanks!

Ok thanks for the input! I think the bull we were using was putting that in some of his calves! We kept a few heifers out of him and one of them started to develop the same deal. We also bought a Vegas x Dr who heifer that is 2 now and had a nice heifer but she kind of has a "roached" loin. From...

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So we raise our own calves to show at county fair. We are trying to pick my daughters show steer for next year.  We like this calf for a lot of reasons but he seems to have a hump in his loin. If it is a structural thing that is going to lead him to walking bad I would rather stay away from it...

We really had good results with vitaferm show champ. When we started feeding we noticed improvement in hair and apetite in both our steer and heifer.

Thats awesome! Goes to show a truly good show steer can hang a good carcass also! <beer>

Real nice calf!!  I like ours too!! We only had one I-80 heifer out of a Hired Man X Angus Cow. She is pretty heavily muscled and nice fronted, the only place I would ding her is that she rounds off in the rump right now, didnt seem to when she was born!?! Hopefully that changes with time.

I like Witch Dr. I think that is the way I am going to go. It should be a good cross. If I get some time I will post a pic of the heifer I am talking about, but I think the wind is supposed to blow like heck this weekend.

Thanks Gargan I was kind of thinking that! I have seen a few Witch Dr. cows and none have been short I have just never used him myself.

Thanks Gargan, that is one I havent thought of! In the SEK Genetics book it says Witch Dr. has a moderate to small frame and I am wanting something that produces a little more frame because this heifer is too short. Has your experience been that he breeds a little bigger?

I have a short Amen x Angus heifer that needs a little frame and a cleaner front end. She has lots of power and hair. I was thinking Mercedes Benz would he do these things? What other suggestions do you all have?