I saw this video-NON PUD and 2 words (as e-mailed around) HOLY S470-t

[mark tenenbaum]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Q-Q7FPUX6kE?rel=0  Thats one stout deal and to have the grow he has. One of the more massive bulls that age Ive EVER SEEN-no Sh%^^*()t O0

 

[Annoth]

Oh my lord how old is he? If he's under 2... Congrats to who ever can get their hands on him! Stunning big boy  (clapping)

 

[wjmcattle]

So are we just going to ignore the fact he is short hipped and sickle hocked and I'm guessing his bone and foot doesn't match his body. Not to mention he bows out. Sure he is high performing but that doesn't make him great. Sure he will work for someone but I like the lot 1 in the same sale much more. That calf can add a lot more to a wider variety of operations.

 

[ROMAX]

So are we just going to ignore the fact he is short hipped and sickle hocked and I'm guessing his bone and foot doesn't match his body. Not to mention he bows out. Sure he is high performing but that doesn't make him great. Sure he will work for someone but I like the lot 1 in the same sale much more. That calf can add a lot more to a wider variety of operations.

If your calling him sickle hocked you must have some very straight legged cattle!

 

[mark tenenbaum]

So are we just going to ignore the fact he is short hipped and sickle hocked and I'm guessing his bone and foot doesn't match his body. Not to mention he bows out. Sure he is high performing but that doesn't make him great. Sure he will work for someone but I like the lot 1 in the same sale much more. That calf can add a lot more to a wider variety of operations.

/// It depends upon the type you are looking for:especially if you have pretty and sound but not stout enuff cows-like some Shorts and Angus-He"ll make 2 of lot 1-and when 1 is that stout-he isnt going to be picture perfect-Plus-given his breeding-he isnt a total cow killer in his pedigree:so for my uses-hes awesome O0

 

[OH Breeder]

So are we just going to ignore the fact he is short hipped and sickle hocked and I'm guessing his bone and foot doesn't match his body. Not to mention he bows out. Sure he is high performing but that doesn't make him great. Sure he will work for someone but I like the lot 1 in the same sale much more. That calf can add a lot more to a wider variety of operations.

If your calling him sickle hocked you must have some very straight legged cattle!

I don't see sickle hocked but do see smaller hoof. Great mass depth and overrall thickness. Does move off rear awkard. Little shorter necked but thick thick overral. Agree with MT if you had the right cows he could balance them out on the other side.

 

[wjmcattle]

So are we just going to ignore the fact he is short hipped and sickle hocked and I'm guessing his bone and foot doesn't match his body. Not to mention he bows out. Sure he is high performing but that doesn't make him great. Sure he will work for someone but I like the lot 1 in the same sale much more. That calf can add a lot more to a wider variety of operations.

If your calling him sickle hocked you must have some very straight legged cattle!

Not straight legged they just like to flex their hocks and not drag there legs. I understand he has more mass then 1 but if you are looking for a bunch of mass and performance I'm sure he'd work but I prefer the length of hip and cockiness of 1. I feel I could use him on a wider variety of cows.

 

[cowboy_nyk]

The problem looks to be in his pasterns when he walks.  Little hard to say when they never show the bottom 6 inches of his legs.  Also, I think I have newborn calves with more testicles than him.

 

[CAB]

  Please put up a link to the entire sale offering or mention the sale name and where I can go take a look. Thanks.

 

[wjmcattle]

It was the genetic advantage sale on cw

 

[librarian]

So are we just going to ignore the fact he is short hipped and sickle hocked and I'm guessing his bone and foot doesn't match his body. Not to mention he bows out. Sure he is high performing but that doesn't make him great. Sure he will work for someone but I like the lot 1 in the same sale much more. That calf can add a lot more to a wider variety of operations.

If your calling him sickle hocked you must have some very straight legged cattle!

Not straight legged they just like to flex their hocks and not drag there legs. I understand he has more mass then 1 but if you are looking for a bunch of mass and performance I'm sure he'd work but I prefer the length of hip and cockiness of 1. I feel I could use him on a wider variety of cows.

It helps a lot when people point out specific issues like him dragging his feet.
It would be great if there was a series of video clips that showed "good bull/bad bull" walking observations.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

The problem looks to be in his pasterns when he walks.  Little hard to say when they never show the bottom 6 inches of his legs.  Also, I think I have newborn calves with more testicles than him.

The problem looks to be in his pasterns when he walks.  Little hard to say when they never show the bottom 6 inches of his legs.  Also, I think I have newborn calves with more testicles than him./// Got anything as stout as him? Thats what the post is about-To each his own as they say O0

 

[cowboy_nyk]

Don't get me wrong, he would make nice steers, I just think he woulda made a nicer steer than a  bull.