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isn't that a fault with a few high% maine bulls, especially cunia based ones?
[/quote] yes that is true, i think sooner is the one that is most used tho so you see it alot more in his calves, out of all the sooner calves ive seen only 3-5 have had a good top and a clean neck, on the postive side his calves are sound, soft made, deep bodied, and relativley thick. the one my freind bought from nowatzkes in michigan city was the thickest hiefer ive ever seen out of sooner, but, she had a bad back and neck, bred her to ali this spring cant wait to see the calf! ;D