Just took a few pictures of the two calves I have. Bull calf just born this morning out of a good reg. Angus an got lot better hair on the one out of Angus cow, looks like it could really work. Pictures at this age is proably stupid cause it is hard to get good one an they will change so much, but just can't help it. I'm very excited about the TROUBADOUR BULL an his calves I get this fall, KRIS BLACK AN RYAN WENT thought that he was pretty good ,Ryan was contending bidder an him an Kris both have raised some real good one's . So far I really like my TINMANS , especially out of the black cow ..I think he will really work there if you don't care if there smoke calves. Troubadour should work the same way . THE pictures are 1-is the TM HEIFER CALF, no. 2 is the just born TM bull calf , no problem with birth, either one . no-3-is a Alias bull calf out of a 095 New Frontier --Northern Gun full sister , he looks good an I really like the Alias calves out of black Angus cows. I should thank some one on the SP tyhat said that he thought they would really work on Angus type cows, can't remember who it was. My biggest worry is if they stay sound on their front legs , one very good breeder of show calves said that was the worst problem of Alias, an he had a Champion pen at a big show back East last fall an they were Alias .Got a question for TMJ SHOW CATTLE,how many different color calves do you get out of the Milkman bull , have seen various colors , but very good looking calves. Color is a big factor when you start playing with the smokes. Hope I helped you some but so far that's the way I see it , but you all know with time it sometime changes.