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Sun Country Bull and Female Sale now online
« on: February 23, 2013, 06:45:15 PM »
We now have the sale catalog for the Sun Country Bull and Female Sale online on our websites.  It can be viewed at www.anwendercattlecompany.com  , www.mcbethshorthorns.com or www.horseshoecreekfarms.com
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http://www.horseshoecreekfarms.com/pdfs/Sun%20Country%202013_web.pdf

We will have current weights and ultrasound data on our websites in a few days.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2013, 06:46:59 PM by justintime »
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Re: Sun Country Bull and Female Sale now online
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2013, 07:19:25 PM »
 Grant , the offering looks really good.
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Re: Sun Country Bull and Female Sale now online
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2013, 11:11:54 PM »
Justintime, The offering looks great I was hoping to see more than 2 hillside leaders in the sale. But the two you do have don't make me regret getting semen from joeb. The red heifer out of leader is my favorite in the sale.

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Re: Sun Country Bull and Female Sale now online
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2013, 07:33:12 AM »
Justintime, The offering looks great I was hoping to see more than 2 hillside leaders in the sale. But the two you do have don't make me regret getting semen from joeb. The red heifer out of leader is my favorite in the sale.


We never got much AI done in 2011 as we were flooded that spring and for several weeks I could not even get to some pastures. I had synchronized a set of heifers but by the time they were coming into heat I could not get to them. I ended up turning the Bar Code bull out and he swam to them. The Hillside Leader 2 year old is an absolute meat wagon, and I am not real happy with his picture, as I think he is better than it shows. The weather was very nasty when we were trying to get pictures and we ended up making the decision to go with what we had as we had to get the catalog to the printer. There are 3 or 4  pics I would have liked to take again, but between wild winds and very cold temps, then thick fog for a few days, followed by days of snow, I finally gave in to Mother Nature. I may be a bit partial, but I really feel the set of bulls in this sale is the best set we have offered yet.
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Re: Sun Country Bull and Female Sale now online
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2013, 06:48:30 PM »
Sure like that 7155 heifer.
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Re: Sun Country Bull and Female Sale now online
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2013, 08:59:41 AM »
Looks like a good set.  Can't wait to see the video on a few of them.  Wouild it be safe to say the Timeline calves generally have a little more performance than the Bar Code calves?  It appeared that they averaged a little higher WDA and ADG according to the data on the website.  As a group, they seem to have as much eye appeal as you'll find in a group that large.

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Re: Sun Country Bull and Female Sale now online
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2013, 12:53:03 PM »
Looks like a good set.  Can't wait to see the video on a few of them.  Wouild it be safe to say the Timeline calves generally have a little more performance than the Bar Code calves?  It appeared that they averaged a little higher WDA and ADG according to the data on the website.  As a group, they seem to have as much eye appeal as you'll find in a group that large.

Lonny, you are correct about the performance  in the Timeline bulls. They definitely do have the most performance in this set of bulls. Timeline also had good performance when he went through our bull test and  he indexed 135 for ADG , or 35% better than the pen average that year. I am weighing the bulls again this afternoon and it will be interesting to see how they have done in the past month. I will also be interested in seeing the ultrasound data which we will post early next week. We will also try to get videos sometime later this week as well and we will post a link on our website as well.
These Timeline bulls have the best dispositions I have ever worked with here, and they definitely have eye appeal. You can pick them out when you walk into the pen. They definitely have uniformity and I am constantly changing my mind as to my favorite bull. I am pretty certain that 2 or 3 of these Timeline sons are the best I have ever raised. Some of my favorites in the heifer pen are also sired  by Timeline as well.
I know that having Salute in the pedigree as the grand sire of these bulls is not popular with some, but I felt I had to overlook this and give Timeline a true test and use him on a cross section of genetics in our herd. I would have to say he has passed every test with flying colors.

The Bar Code calves do have pretty decent performance but they are low BW bulls and are all our first calf heifers. Every Bar Code bull was born unassisted and they should be good choices for breeding heifers. We get more people looking for bulls to use on heifers every year so these bulls are definite candidates for that.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2013, 06:11:17 PM by justintime »
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Re: Sun Country Bull and Female Sale now online
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2013, 08:15:03 PM »
Lonny's comments about the performance of our different sire groups got me curious as well, and today after I weighed the bulls, I did some calculations. Our bulls have been fed an economy 14% pellet, that consists of lentil and pea screenings and about 10% barley screenings, along with free choice hay and mineral. The pellet we feed costs less than half of what they want for a rolled grain ration.  The feed mill is super impressed with the gain our bulls have made on this ration as the entire pen has averaged 3.36 lb/day since we started them on the pellet ration on October 26th.

Here is how our bulls have done so far:
The top gaining bull is a Timeline son at 4.11 lb/ day. 8  Timeline sons have averaged 3.53 lbs/ day. The highest WPDA  is also a Timeline bull at 3.65 lb/ day. He is a March 16th bull and he weighed 1262 lb today. He also has a BW of 92 lbs so he never missed a beat since he was born.

The second best gaining bull is the only Major Leroy bull in pen and he has averaged 3.99 lb/ day. He also has a WPDA since birth of 3.51 lb/ day and did not have creep during the summer. This bull has averaged 5.19 lb/ day since the last weigh on January 25th

Three Shadybrook Perfection 35S sons have averaged 3.30 lb/ day.

3 Saskvalley Pioneer 126P sons have averaged 3.16 lb/ day but one bull in this group is lagging behind the others for some reason and has pulled the average gain down some.

Four Bar Code bulls have averaged 3.29 lbs/ day which I think is pretty good for all being from 1st calf heifers and all having lower BWs.

All of these average gains listed here are based on the gains over the past 122 days ( since October 26th).  

The rep for the mill stopped here today shortly after I had finished weighing the bulls and he said he was very impressed with the gains as they designed this ration for a 3 lb/ day average gain, and this group are doing considerably better than this. The entire pen averaged 4.22 lbs/ day over the last 31 days since the last weighing. I think this is pretty decent especially when we had two different periods of 2 or more days in a row where the wind chill was below -40 F One of these was -53 F with the windchill.



« Last Edit: February 25, 2013, 09:13:25 PM by justintime »
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Re: Sun Country Bull and Female Sale now online
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2013, 12:14:35 PM »
Our Sun Country Bull and Female sale catalog is now printed and we are hoping to mail to all Canadian addresses tomorrow ( Friday) and we will be mailing to interested US producers on Monday March 4th. If anyone would like to receive a catalog let us know and we will include them in these mailings. 
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Re: Sun Country Bull and Female Sale now online
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2013, 05:41:47 PM »
Check out the ultrasound results on the Sun Country bulls on our website www.horseshoecreekfarms.com and www.anwendercattlecompany.com. More videos will be posted early next week.
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