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The Big Show / Re: Genetic defects
« on: December 24, 2018, 05:10:40 AM »
As I understand it the Herford cattle have a few "diluter" gene carriers. When bred to Angus......you can get grey calves. I wonder if this is a bleed over.......from Simmental accidentally being introduced to the Herford breed?

Accidentally was the best world to explain!
Too many accidents on Herefords, Angus......on Shorthorn too, but are official accidents!

He doesn't look like I would have expected when you see the farms on Facebook. I expected shorter bodied softer made. More moderate structure. His NAILE pic looks long bodied and as Ryan said very tubular lacking in muscle definition.

I known the Argentinian Shorthorn. He isn't a good exemplar of the breed there.

The Big Show / Re: Lincoln Red influence, continued
« on: November 25, 2018, 12:56:08 PM »
not to hijack the esteemed librarians thread but I have long pondered why the Luing has not showed its presence in the contemporary show calf genre...

My experience with Lincoln Reds was positive... I had two cows out of Green Row Everlawn (or everready? Green row sumthin...) and they were superb cows. However I remember as a child Ralph Stirm had some LRs and while they were stout and soggy, they had horrible bags and sloppy sheaths on the bulls.

Yes, depending of bull, we can get outstanding animals or just mongrels without class!

The Big Show / Re: Roan Brute
« on: November 17, 2018, 08:45:00 AM »
Interisting pedigree.
A little bit inbreding added to some old genetics.
My perfect formula!
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I saw a video from him.
Looks better there.
Pics are a trap sometimes.

Testicles are a real problem on Argentinian Shorthorn.

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Very differemt of what I can imagine!

From what I have read and from DNA work, American Shorthorns and Lincoln Reds are both decendents of Durham Shorthorns.

Lincoln Red were form from red Shorthorn from Booth line.
Used under big local cow from Lincolnshire. This cows had some dutch blood.
Of course all run on 1800.

Looks like Lincoln Reds are polled with a dark red color. I wasn't really aware of them. One thing about the Durham Reds is they have various shades of red. From orange to a darker red. I would think that orange would be less desirable. I think the Durham Reds need to be taken directly to the commercial people. They won't work in the showring.

Yes, they are deep red.
Horned or polled, mostly the cattle today are polled.
Polled with Aberdeen Angus infusion on 40's and 50's.

I would consider using a Lincoln Red bull if he was not Shorthorn Plus status. I believe it would be a better deal than the Red aNGUS thing.

The Lincoln Reds I saw 30+ years ago at Pleasant Valley in Brandon Iowa were the real deal. They were just the wrong side of the road for the 70's-80's trend.

LR are better option when compare to red Aberdeen Angus. Easy fleshing, good weight gain very docile.
They never become dwarves, always kept a good size.

The Big Show / Re: Lincoln Red influence, continued
« on: October 20, 2018, 04:00:54 PM »
White House Donald is a pic share by me....don't remember the year. Possible 50's.
LR are superb for weight gain.
The problem on my view is the heavy hair that is hardy to shed in some animals as well as big teats that are hardy to calf suckle.
Of course the new lines are minimize these problems.
I own some semen of old bulls.

The Big Show / Re: Shorthorn History Buffs
« on: September 22, 2018, 05:22:22 PM »
Well, a good post. Like it.
Maybe some bulls from past if had the chance to be mate and used massivelly as many ones today, their performance could to be better.
Also agree, some bulls on the past must to stay there, as well as must bulls from today never should to be entered on a semen company for collect.
Don't know if compare performance from bulls from 60's or 70's with actual bulls is right. Are different times, different markets for each age, different ways to see the business.
Some old bulls are able to add good characters on today cattle.
I have two Kinnaber Leader 9th daughters that are amazing shaped, decrease a bit my frame and add character on my herd.
Intend to use some old ones on 90's and 2000's genetics females to improve some things, in special meat shape and breed character.

The Big Show / Re: Shorthorn History Buffs
« on: September 08, 2018, 09:30:19 AM »

The Big Show / Re: Color pattern in cattle
« on: April 14, 2018, 09:01:06 PM »
Black white stripe faced.

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