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The Big Show / Re: Cost of flushing in Canada
« on: January 09, 2013, 07:28:50 PM »
I use Davis-Rairdan Embryo Transplants from Crossfield, AB  for most of my flushing.It is a 600 mile trip out there but I continue to use them because of their international work.  They do on- farm flushing through the months of April, May and June. If you have some recips set up they will also put the embryos you collect, in at the same time. I have also used Optimum Genetics at Regina, and have good success with them as well. I think there are quite a few excellent choices. I have stayed with Davis-Rairdan mainly because I export so many embryos and they seem to do so much international work that we can oftentimes make up joint shipments. Right now I am putting a shipment together for Britain and have gathered about 50-60 embryos that have sold over there. I have 26 of my own and okotoks has some along with several from other breeds. I am hoping we can find a few more to put in the tank so that the costs will be minimal on a per embryo basis.

I see that your Misty 57P cow is a descendant of HC Mac's Missie 78L, that your family purchased from us as a bred heifer. I remember her very well, and she was a thick even roan female with some outcross genetics in her background.


Grant, what excelent set of donors and embryos available!! I'm impressed. Congrats!
 (thumbsup) (thumbsup) <beer>

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The Big Show / Re: Shorthorn and Simmental bulls
« on: January 09, 2013, 07:20:11 PM »
22, 7 and 8.
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The Big Show / Re: Shadybrook Scotty 83K calves, and other!
« on: January 01, 2013, 04:57:00 PM »

Reading your comments this means to me that you was in Brazil!!!

Here also have one of the worst sanitary problems and have one of the hardiers import protocols for import. Australians when hear that we wish some genetics shut out our mails. Some for UK.

Do you tryed to check protocols Brazil/S.Africa? I'm inserting some full Argentinan blood embryos here and will have some genetics available in two years, also have in my semen bank some good Argentinian bulls as well as old genetics that will work very well on grass.

I will get on to that when the holiday season is over on 07 January 2013.  That is generally when everyone gets back to work after Christmas.

Had a good look at the pictures of Shorthorns and Lincoln Red Shorthorns on your website and liked them.  I saw Stonmour Thundercloud at the last Royal Show in 2009, good bull considering his 100% pure status.

Where abouts are you in Brazil, down south near Argentina?

I knew Thunder Cloud in farm on 2010. Liked much him, medium framed bull, lots of meat. Have two heifers (embryos collect two weeks ago) and a bull calf that is very interest. To me is a outcross very interest.

I live in southern Brazil, 220 km from Uruguay. Argentina is so far for me, around 700 km on road. Yearly I visited Palermo show there and already judge on Prado (Montevideo - Uruguay). My city is Rio Grande, look at google to have an idea where I'm from.

As you check my site you saw all availale genetics from SHO and LIR that I own.

Best 2013!

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The Big Show / Re: Shadybrook Scotty 83K calves, and other!
« on: December 30, 2012, 03:42:54 PM »
You need to do a Justintime-and export embryos on that horned Bessie cow-COWABUNGA shes good O0
Unfortunately it doesn't work that way!

Africa is the hotbed of diseases, read human HIV, Dengue Fever et al, bovine Rift Valley Fever, Rinderpest, Foot and Mouth et al, but we in South Africa have some of the most stringent import criteria for genetics in the world, I believe!

Most animals qualifying for genetic export to most European and N. American countries need to undergo further quarantine to be eligible for export to S. Africa.

I looked at some Argentinian genetics a couple of years ago.  There seems to be some tit-for-tat diplomatic spat between the countries and that is an absolute no-go!

Genetic imports at reasonable prices are dependant on the major genetics companies like CRI/Genex otherwise the private route, at a much higher cost.  There are probably only less than about 1000 pedigree Beef Shorthorn cows in S. Africa currently, from being one of the most popular breeds in the 60/70's.  They have mostly been crossed to make composites, including Bonsmaras, Santa Gertrudis, Beefmasters and Stormbergers.

I still believe there is both a fashion and marketing component to breed popularity and that it is also cyclical.

I also believe that the marketing strategy is still to try and follow a polled, red phenotype, that is the Angus's biggest advantage, polled progeny!  Dehorning for me always seems to be scheduled for the hottest day of the year, although this year I was rained out for the first time ever!

That said, Shorthorns still pay the bills although good prices for quality bulls would be the cherry on top!


Reading your comments this means to me that you was in Brazil!!!

Here also have one of the worst sanitary problems and have one of the hardiers import protocols for import. Australians when hear that we wish some genetics shut out our mails. Some for UK.

Do you tryed to check protocols Brazil/S.Africa? I'm inserting some full Argentinan blood embryos here and will have some genetics available in two years, also have in my semen bank some good Argentinian bulls as well as old genetics that will work very well on grass.

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The Big Show / Re: What do you think of this Shorthorn female?
« on: December 23, 2012, 03:02:50 AM »
The weight is right and teh color too. People must open your eyes for new options. Roans have same characteriscts of blacks, believe that better in some aspects too. The unique problem is that miss more marketing and strong big company behind breed for impulse more people to use and adopt the breed. Never forget, british are british, same characteristics with few diferences, at least in South AMerica!
Yes I know roans are good cattle blacks just have marketing. I was reading that brazil is now selling angus branded beef. I must also complement you on the quality of your cattle they are outstanding no matter what colour they are.


Aussie, the quality of Angus is unquestionable in all aspects. But I only like to kkep clear that Angus isn't the unique breed in world that is good in marbling, fat cover, precocity and other aspects too.
Brazil as other countries has a strong Angus society that works for your breed. They have your merits and all success is due this work, as in other world countries were Angus is found.
Our breed, as I bred Aberdeen Angus too, is more one tool available, that joining with Shorthorns, Herefords, etc....are available for commercial beef producers.
Brazil has 95% of cattle population composed by Bos indicus (zebu), we can give them merti by roughness, not for meat quality!  ;)
My previous comments was not to be controversial or against you, please don't undersmistand me. But some times people must know that we are not alone in Universe!
Regards from southern Brazil!

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The Big Show / Re: What do you think of this Shorthorn female?
« on: December 22, 2012, 06:12:33 PM »
The weight is right and teh color too. People must open your eyes for new options. Roans have same characteriscts of blacks, believe that better in some aspects too. The unique problem is that miss more marketing and strong big company behind breed for impulse more people to use and adopt the breed. Never forget, british are british, same characteristics with few diferences, at least in South AMerica!

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The Big Show / Re: Char X Shorthorn
« on: December 22, 2012, 03:59:21 PM »
Here in southern Brazil a classic cross were SHO x CHAR. This was used for many years to add meat quality, fat and precocity on fast weight gain Charolais cows.
On early this year I sold 500 straws of my roan bull for some breedrs that wish do again this cross. Together Charolais cows, they also used on half blood Brahman/Aberdeen Angus cows.
Photos attached.
The yellowish calf is a half blood Charolais cow x Shorthorn bull. The black one is 50% Shorthorn, 25% Angus, 25% Brahman.

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The Big Show / Re: What do you think of this Shorthorn female?
« on: December 21, 2012, 01:04:58 PM »
How tall is Estrella? Some of the frame scores listed on the other bulls I liked were a touch to tall for me. I like Estrela. Very good head. His front fits his rear.

148 cm
6,4 framed.
1.000 kg
36 kg at birth.
Do the math....2.22 pounds per Kilogram. I'll leave Y'uns up to your own conclusions.

GB ;)
Those numbers are about perfect for me.


For me too, as wish raise cattle and produce meat on grass....not raise elephants eating corn! Tis is my enviroment, mius raise what I can feed on there.

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The Big Show / Re: What do you think of this Shorthorn female?
« on: December 20, 2012, 07:10:35 AM »
not sure what to think of the bull in the video.  I don't think I've ever seen a cattle beast jiggle so much as they walk.  That guy is plain hog fat- not that is a bad thing, or a good thing...

I'd like to see more masculinity, and maybe more extension up front-- he's so massive behind the shoulders- it's almost making him unbalanced. 

with that negativity-- that bull should still have a place in the USA genetic pool.  Bulls like that, if put on the right females could really work well-- or if put on the most popular bloodlines-- it would help them tremendously as well.! 

The other bulls, are pretty interesting too... course, they're all haired up and such-- but there are bulls under that shag.


Agree with your points. Maybe a little less shoulders could be desirable. The head is so bad too at my point, due US blood infusion.
But to us the first point, that move me to buy semen him and use it, are the large and wide loin and muscle on back quarters. The US bulls as Enticer, Winchester and Optimun 75F make us a bad work, takeing off lots of meat and inserting the typical irish blood head and shoulders. Not wish this kind of animal.
Estrella did a great work and Willy insert some more class after.

at least we agree...

seriously though, I can see you having a point. IMO, if you put a long 'heifer' neck on that bull, you'd have virtually nearly every popular bloodlined shorthorn bull in the US.  Of course the difference would be they were fattened on show feed as mature bulls, whereas that one was on grass. (lol)  I'd say this calf probably looked like a heifer as a baby, before he 'massed' up. 

perfect example to me, this calf, who's from some popular US show breeding-- and looks like a heifer, IMO, compared to the other bull I'll post.


Liked of second bull calf. Massive and bull appeal.

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The Big Show / Re: What do you think of this Shorthorn female?
« on: December 20, 2012, 05:13:58 AM »
not sure what to think of the bull in the video.  I don't think I've ever seen a cattle beast jiggle so much as they walk.  That guy is plain hog fat- not that is a bad thing, or a good thing...

I'd like to see more masculinity, and maybe more extension up front-- he's so massive behind the shoulders- it's almost making him unbalanced. 

with that negativity-- that bull should still have a place in the USA genetic pool.  Bulls like that, if put on the right females could really work well-- or if put on the most popular bloodlines-- it would help them tremendously as well.! 

The other bulls, are pretty interesting too... course, they're all haired up and such-- but there are bulls under that shag.


Agree with your points. Maybe a little less shoulders could be desirable. The head is so bad too at my point, due US blood infusion.
But to us the first point, that move me to buy semen him and use it, are the large and wide loin and muscle on back quarters. The US bulls as Enticer, Winchester and Optimun 75F make us a bad work, takeing off lots of meat and inserting the typical irish blood head and shoulders. Not wish this kind of animal.
Estrella did a great work and Willy insert some more class after.

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The Big Show / Re: What do you think of this Shorthorn female?
« on: December 20, 2012, 05:08:08 AM »
How tall is Estrella? Some of the frame scores listed on the other bulls I liked were a touch to tall for me. I like Estrela. Very good head. His front fits his rear.

148 cm
6,4 framed.
1.000 kg
36 kg at birth.

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The Big Show / Re: What do you think of this Shorthorn female?
« on: December 19, 2012, 06:34:05 PM »
o hell yea! Are you kidding me!! What a stud

The Tarbes are from Maria Elena stud from German Marcelo Mouremble
The Mearns are from Cabaa Tarves from Dr. Jorge Sinclair.

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The Big Show / Re: What do you think of this Shorthorn female?
« on: December 19, 2012, 05:20:57 PM »
There's a video of Tarves Count Willy from an A.I. Stud in South America. I'll try to find it.
 Until then, John-Pierre, could you post pics of "Estrella" for the people to see, Thank You!

GB

Pics from Mearns Estrella x226
Sire: Sebant Titleist (Sutherland Titleist; Mandalong Super Flag; Benniworth Winston (Lincoln Red)
Dam: Mearsn Dionea X24 (Inca Sophy Pilot Silly 8; RPS Tribune 82 (twice);

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The Big Show / Re: What do you think of this Shorthorn female?
« on: December 19, 2012, 05:17:30 PM »
There's a video of Tarves Count Willy from an A.I. Stud in South America. I'll try to find it.
 Until then, John-Pierre, could you post pics of "Estrella" for the people to see, Thank You!

GB


Dear friend, the link for TARBES COUNT WILL 1767 is on youtube at
TOURO SHORTHORN CIALE - Count Willy

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The Big Show / Re: What do you think of this Shorthorn female?
« on: December 19, 2012, 04:30:06 PM »

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