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The Big Show / Re: Ideas for manure disposal
« on: October 29, 2020, 02:25:22 PM »
In the big pen (100'x120') just pile it up in the center about 8-10' high and the calves work it down to about 4-5' high and lay on it.  It stays pretty dry compared to the rest of the pen.  The smaller pens, just push it out to a pile and keep letting it cook -- someday get someone in with a spreader and move it out.  We are only a 12-15" precipitation zone here though and nearest neighbor is 3 miles away.

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The Big Show / Re: Looking for advice/tips....
« on: August 14, 2020, 09:22:10 AM »
Is this steer really sensitive about his head and feet?  A lot of cattle are deadheads and nothing bothers them, but I have had some that are extremely sensitive to the pressure of a halter and if you do not release the pressure as soon as they respond, they will throw a fit, run off, etc. because they are frustrated that they are not receiving the release of pressure from the halter lead.  Fear of the calf running off may make your daughter keep him on a "tighter leash" which is causing the extra pressure on his head and leading to the steer trying to get away.  A cable halter would "bite" with less pressure from the lead and exacerbate the steer's frustration.  Maybe try working him (in a smaller pen where he can't get away) on the halter using as little pressure to get him to respond and immediately releasing when he does the right thing and see if it makes a difference.  Let him have quite a few opportunities to learn how to respond the right way and on as light of a lead as possible.   

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The Big Show / Re: lemon grass, cattle emissions
« on: July 16, 2020, 03:05:38 PM »
I finally watched the commercial this morning on YouTube.   It was a hokey, insulting, stupid and cultural misappropriative piece of crap.  If it does anything it will drive customers away from beef in general, not just from BK.  The sooner they file bankruptcy the better.

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The Big Show / Re: optimum cow size
« on: June 11, 2020, 06:31:01 PM »
Here in SE Wyoming we are 100% rangeland grazing on native range with a couple of areas of domestic grass seedings.  I figure it takes 2.5-3.0 acres per cow per month (animal unit month or AUM) depending on the pasture.  We have about 12 pastures and try to stock them so that the pastures last 1-1 months with about 3" of stubble remaining then move to the next.  This seems to provide enough cover for the range and cows have to spend too much time hunting for feed if we graze it any shorter.  By managing pastures this way, I have cows from 1100 lbs. to 1500+ lbs. that will maintain their weight and the calves wean off pretty close to 50% of the cow weight.  Any cow that raises a dink is on the cull list.  I am sure some of the smaller end cows can eat as much as some of the larger end cows, but there really is no way to measure it.  I am betting that in 5 more years the average weight is probably going to converge in the 1300-1400 lb. cow average.  Since we calve in March, we do feed about a half ration of alfalfa until May when the grass comes on.  No cow gets special treatment -- they all run together.

Raising Angus seedstock, the bull buyers in this area can talk moderate cow size all they want, but when they buy bulls, they won't buy the small frame end of the bulls because they want the weaning weights.  The 1300-1400 lb. cows tend to balance the productivity and efficiency on average under range conditions while producing marketable bulls.  Marketable bulls is where the profit lies.  Their sisters become replacements, so we have to watch our mature size and resist keeping the heifers with big weaning weights unless we are sure they will have a reasonable mature size.  Everything else basically meets their expenses unless we add value by feeding out steers and heifers for freezer beef.  Feeding puds isn't very profitable, so the cow base has to have some performance no matter their size.

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The Big Show / Re: Bull libido problems
« on: May 13, 2020, 12:56:40 PM »
Had one do that last year with yearling bull batting clean up.  Cows always seemed settled during July.  Beginning of August saw a different one in heat about every day.  Pulled another bull from the heifer pasture and put him in to salvage the operation.  Luckily most were stuck to AI, but will be calving 7 head for the next month that will be two months behind the rest of the herd.  Put another bull in and at least see if the competition makes him more active and make sure he is getting there.

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The Big Show / Re: Bulls siring larger frames
« on: May 11, 2020, 03:36:58 PM »
Every producer's resource base is unique.  If you raise a lot of irrigated alfalfa hay and are short pasture, then the choice is to sell hay or feed it and a higher input-output cow might be in order.  If you are long on grass and short on hay or have to purchase all your winter feed at high cost, then the low input cow might be more profitable.  In a lot of the inter-mountain west, a 1300-1400 lb. cow in BCS 5 is pretty common (even though the guys who don't weigh them will tell you they only weigh 1100).  The forage is usually higher quality, but less bulky than washy grass, and with a lot more steps in between bites, so you will see cows that can tend to have less body depth because they don't need it to get the good from their forage source.  Set your performance and cull parameters and see what pretty actually looks like for the environment they're in.

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The Big Show / Re: True " Ground Sow"
« on: May 01, 2020, 11:27:57 AM »
Cut them 3" thick.

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Our BDR calves out of Walks Alone cow and a Maine cow were about 85-90# and built like bricks.  Kinda looked the same as fats as the day they were born.  Wouldn't put him on any of our heifers.

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The Big Show / Re: Leachman Saugahatchee 3000C cow.
« on: March 04, 2020, 10:59:43 AM »
How large of frame is she and what size cattle are you aiming for?

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The Big Show / Re: Leachman Saugahatchee 3000C cow.
« on: March 03, 2020, 08:07:34 PM »
Conley South Point might work here.  Semen is expensive, but for a flush might be worth it.

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The Big Show / Re: Heifer broke front leg
« on: February 28, 2020, 05:01:46 PM »
If it heals but is crooked and she is gaining weight she should make fine beef.  If she is going downhill and not gaining, then probably not good beef.

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The Big Show / Re: First time halter training
« on: February 26, 2020, 09:37:41 PM »
Use pressure and release to start them leading.  At first, just get them to turn their head in the direction of the tug on the lead rope and as soon as they do, release the pressure.  Do it 10 or 20 times, whatever it takes to get them to turn their head with minimal pressure.  Then ask for a step and when they step one step, release and maybe comb them a little, then ask for another step and release, comb, etc. and gradually work up to two steps and so on where they are giving to the pressure pretty easily.  I can usually get one taking a step or two the first 15 minutes of working with them if they start out gentle.  Usually 2 or 3 of the 10-15 minute sessions and they will lead.  I don't tie them until they lead.  That keeps them from fighting the halter and getting sore heads and chins.

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The Big Show / Re: Heifer broke front leg
« on: February 26, 2020, 09:31:16 PM »
How old?  We have put casts on several small calves (120 lbs or less) and healed fine.

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The Big Show / Re: Leachman Saugahatchee 3000C X VAR Powerplay
« on: February 24, 2020, 11:27:12 AM »
Kind of a fire and ice mating on frame size and growth.  Birth weight probably be fairly high.  Interesting.

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The Big Show / Re: Aluminum Livestock Trailers
« on: February 24, 2020, 11:22:54 AM »
Aluminum trailers hold their value better than anything except maybe a John Deere 4020.  One of the few things worth financing for 60 months because you will never be upside down on the note.  Make sure you keep full coverage insurance on it though in case you bend it up.

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