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The Big Show / Re: angus defects
« on: March 04, 2010, 10:30:35 AM »
 Give it up already Shorthorn guys!
 We're out numbered 100 to 1. No amount of research data, scientific , or common sense is going to over power these odds.
 Never under estimate the power of propaganda to the ignorant masses. (I didn't say a word about cattle buyers!)
 The only way I've found to beat the system is marketing black hided 3/4 and 7/8,s Shortys (and let them be called angus), or full blood Shortys that are solid red (and let them be called cross). Lets just keep on "hobbieing" with the roans, and make sure your "freezer meat" customers don't see them before they're skinned.  

The Big Show / Re: best fitters
« on: March 04, 2010, 09:21:51 AM »
Black and Stewarts First Lieutenant,  Robert Carlson,  he's been good at it for 30 years!  He probably observed Paul Trueblood.

Now Trueblood was a magician!  In and out of the ring!

The Big Show / Re: Help on stillborns needed please
« on: February 25, 2010, 08:01:58 PM »
Sorry to have went missing. I've just been very busy with school and our family has been passing around the same upper respiratory virus the past two weeks:( We have yet to figure out our problem. To add another piece to the puzzle the same seems to be occurring with our sheep as they have began to lamb. Same symptoms as the cattle. Stillborn lambs born at approx. due date to ewes that didn't act like they were going to lamb and oddly don't seem to care that they lost their lambs. They consume entirely different feed than the cattle. Everything they eat comes from a mill in town that observes very strict testing of commodities. Another possible piece could be reduced fertility with my purebred dogs as well. In the past 6 mos, One failed to ovulate completely. Another did not conceive on her most recent season or her last, despite progesterone testing, evaluation of the semen and a surgical AI. Yet another had a litter of two this October when I would expect 8-10 based on her genetics and past history. All are healthy, very well maintained, eat an organic diet, and have pristine reproductive histories. The only common link amongst any of these animals is water and we are still awaiting testing.

Any one have any experience with well water that could cause issues such as these?

Thank you for everyone's concern and input thus far and in advance for any ideas you may have to offer.


Saw this about 20 years ago from the well on my Uncles family farm. Dairy, beef, and hogs and it put him out of business.

Also have seen abortions from Urea Plasma, and witnessed heavy losses from moldy hay. Any kind of sorghum\corn stover is prone to mold.

The Big Show / Re: Old Sayings
« on: February 25, 2010, 02:34:03 PM »
"Rich? Proud? Wise? Your still gonna die like the rest of us."  King David

"If I had the power to move a mountain and didn't love my neighbor. What good would it do me?"  Paul

"Seek the truth, it will set you free."  Jesus

The Big Show / Re: calving season stories
« on: February 25, 2010, 10:04:53 AM »
Yesterday was a first for me.

11 year old cow torsion uterus. C-section. Strangulated uterus. Only chance for survival, hysterectomy. Unable to manually force prolapse due to under dilated cervix.

Walking dead cow. Dead calf.

Doesn't take a genius to see who's in charge. (angel)

The Big Show / Re: Old Sayings
« on: February 24, 2010, 08:08:02 PM »
Obviously, this ain't yer first rodeo!

What'd-ya-do lose all yer marbles?

Pay the dime, dance the dance!

That looks like crippled dog she-ut!

Are ya makin, bag yet?

What? Did yer crocodile mouth get ahead of yer hummingbird a$$?

The Big Show / Re: Old Sayings
« on: February 24, 2010, 10:04:45 AM »

Probably but i doubt it.  [/quote]

Great directive, here's some more!

Whatever happens is best.

Remain ignorant forever.

The Big Show / Re: Old Sayings
« on: February 23, 2010, 07:42:10 PM »
Just when I thought I was getin' somewhere in this rat race, guess what? Faster rats!

The Big Show / Re: Old Sayings
« on: February 23, 2010, 08:29:33 AM »
Why is it human nature can't resist this question? "How many cows do you own?"  I over heard a crusty old farmer one time with the perfect answer. "When it comes to feedn' em, too many. When it comes to selln' em not enough!"

My ex asked me that question the day we met. Wonder how I missed that clue? ???

The Big Show / Re: Wymore is home!
« on: February 10, 2010, 09:29:50 AM »
Wymore was collected at KABSU and tested CCSS, which is USA standards. We are trying to get the feds to retest already collected semen for clearance to Canada (slight chance). Otherwise he will have to be quarantined for 90 days and recollected. How much semen do you think we can sell in Canada?

We remeasured Wymore. He grew 2 inches from 2 years to 6 years, he's now 59 inches.

The Big Show / Re: Big Calves
« on: February 06, 2010, 12:37:58 PM »
 Unfortunately there are still some people out there though that come to buy a bull and DO NOT think the female puts half the genetics into the calf!!

The female (and her husbandry) is responsible for 50% of the genetics + 100% of environment + 100% of the nutrition, which means to me = 82% calf size responsibility.

The Big Show / Re: Big Calves
« on: February 06, 2010, 10:51:41 AM »
Definition of birthweight EPD: 1. A prehistoric means of measuring calving ease. 2. Enticement for fibbing. 3. De-evolution.

Definition of calving ease: 1. After breakfast, finding a calf nursing, followed by the thought. "Wow, that's a nice calf." 2. 83#. 3. See (Definition of birthweight EPD. Number 2).

The Big Show / Re: Big Calves
« on: February 06, 2010, 09:29:59 AM »
Ever notice at a boxing match how the ref will stop the fight and move it to the middle when an opponent gets backed in a corner? Who do we have in the cattle industry to ref for us? If your cows can't successfully calve 10% of their body weight, your back'in for the corner!

The Big Show / Re: Wild Mustangs
« on: January 31, 2010, 09:32:12 AM »
 all the people who want to protect and 'save' wild horses...and then everyone who feels the earth should be 'greener' can, instead of buying a 'hybrid' car, ride one of those wild mustangs!


 (thumbsup) Would Nancy P. ride western, side-saddle, or bareback? How would we tell which was her or the horse? Since their emissions are identical!

The Big Show / Re: Shorthorn bulls
« on: January 30, 2010, 08:53:13 AM »
Take my word for it Grant, Hillside Leader's momma is extra special!

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