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The Big Show / Re: jakes sultan of jazz
« on: April 16, 2016, 11:43:38 PM »
Can anyone tell me if Sultan Semen is approved for Canada?

Check with Lewis Cattle on Facebook. They have possession on him. Sale is tomorrow.

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The Big Show / Re: Cow type for MAB
« on: April 06, 2016, 12:23:48 PM »
Mark- I have some pasture pictures. I don't have any fancy pictures. He is very masculine and breeds aggressively. He is a Boomer son which is Sooner's full brother.

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The Big Show / Re: Cow type for MAB
« on: April 05, 2016, 03:54:30 PM »
how about this one? Scott Heeter In Iowa got some good ones out of this bull-from maines O0

Mark i have an amazing bull that has given me prospects pictured. He is purebed maine 7/8 shorthorn. I just want go clubby on two simmi x maine gals that are more of my top performs. Its just so hard to catch them in heat. They usually breed in 30 days. We just want to branch out little more. These girls were really that thick and deep bodied. Not they were sold open as i had alot of question if they were bred. The boys are great blend of some of the best herds in the nation.

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The Big Show / Re: Cow type for MAB
« on: April 05, 2016, 12:07:33 PM »
Thanks for the replys. I think my two female may fit the bill. Both have some growth curve in their calves and finish very well.

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The Big Show / Re: Widest Clubby bull out there?
« on: April 01, 2016, 11:42:39 PM »
There are several bulls named American Idol. With Draft Pick not that far back, how does Walks Alone make them moderate. I'm just genuinely asking since this thread is about moderate thick bulls

We didn't have any luck with Walks Alone temperament. They were some of the strongest willed cattle we've worked with. They weren't mean necessarily as they were extremely smart animals that were temperamental.

Have seen several Jimmy the Greek calves. They looked awesome as calves and as they grew out they never got very big. He threw major hair and some bone.

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The Big Show / Re: Shorthorn cow
« on: April 01, 2016, 11:39:33 PM »
Looking for. Young shprthorn cow and calf any ideas where to look?

This time of year you can find just about any blood line you want through expo sales and private sales. Just depends on what direction you are wanting to go with your herd as to what you buy. This weekend is Michigan expo. Ohio was a few weeks ago. There are some good sales coming up just go to the Shorthorn website and look up upcoming sales.

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The Big Show / Re: Shorthorn dispersal
« on: April 01, 2016, 11:37:31 PM »
Isn't CYT just recycled Sullivan and Cates the usual me to breeding programs?/// YOU GOT IT-ALONG WITH ALL THE "SYNDICATED BULLS" all 3 seem to own O0

It seems to me that they have all had a fair bit of success so what is the problem? There is no rule or law that says you have to ever use any of the genetics they use. Why do so many people have to complain and/or gossip about those who have been successful? Is it because they can't compete with their success and they make attempts to bring them down to their level, or is it just envoy of their successes? I will never understand,  that if they are wrong and you are smarter and know what they are doing wrong, why you people don't just get with the program and make better cattle? I get so tired of people complaining and doing nothing to correct what they see as being wrong. You apparently have an issue with syndicated bulls. If you have no desire to ever be involved with one of these bulls, how does it affect you?  I guess complaining is just so much easier than actually doing something to change all the wrongs you have identified. Sometimes I wonder what it would actually be like to come here and actually see a bunch of positive comments rather than the negativity that seems to drive so many. Quite frankly, it is getting rather sickening!
Personally, I am a bit sad to see Cyclone Trace disperse. I think John Hagie is one of the nicest men I have ever known in the cattle industry. I am thankful for what he has done and I think he will be missed. He designed a breeding program that did what it was designed to do. The Cyclone Trace herd had many successes over the years, and they should be very proud. It was a wonderful sight to attend one of their sales and see families going through the sale pens and sorting the cattle. He had a real heart for juniors and I can think of few who did so much to help junior programs.  Many of the cattle they produced were not what I was looking for in my breeding program, but I did purchase a couple females that have been very good producers for me.
But life goes on, and change is constant. This would be a perfect time for someone to design a good breeding program. It doesn't have to be the same as that designed by John Hagie and his crew. Design your own program and build some useful cattle.//// I almost never bring my cattle or background into the arena:and my exploits all over the planet BUT THIS TIME I WILL-One of the major familes and HAGIES HERD BULL ARE GRANDSONS AND DAUGHTERS OF UB MAD MAX AS IN CYT MAXIM, AND THE MAX ROSA FAMILIES.-A GUY IN VA NAMED MARK TENENBAUM RAISED HIM FROM AN EMBRYO-AND WITH LAWRENCE GRATHWOHL WON ALMOST EVERY NATIONAL SHOW THAT YEAR.BUT MAX STARTED OUT SLOW AND ONLY ONE PERSON REALLY THOUGHT ANYTHING OF HIM AS A CALF-WHICH WAS FRANK KAELERS DAUGHTER-WE BOTH CONCURRED THAT HE NEEDED SOME GUTS ETC-BUT WITH THE MARK 4 AND CANADIAN BACK THERE HE SURE OUGHTA WORK WITH HOMEDALE FLASH-AND THATS WHERE THE MAX ROSA CAME FROM.SO ALTHOUGH IM NOT A FASHIONABLE FOLLOWER ETC-THERES A PART OF ME IN THAT SALE O0

Thank you Mr. Tenebaum for the history lesson. Thank you for your dedication to the shorthorn breed. I think you always post something that has food for thought.

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The Big Show / Cow type for MAB
« on: April 01, 2016, 11:22:28 PM »
We were going to experiment with MAB this year on a couple of cows. What type of cow do you all believe he clicks with the best? The pictures I have seen he seems shoulder heavy and breaks a bit. Wouldn't a feminine made female with clean front compliment him? I have two females that are percentage simmi and consistently throw small calves in the 60-70# range. Extremely nice females just wanted to see how he might work on them.

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The Big Show / Re: Full Flush and other fitted by today's style
« on: April 01, 2016, 11:20:19 PM »
Look at the original Heatwave picture,then look at all the clones pics over the yrs,thats kinda what you are after.

This is an excellent point. Some of the clones look world different than their donor. Feeding and fitting styles change and I would have to think it would make a huge difference.

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The Big Show / Re: Would you keep/buy a twin as a herd bull?
« on: April 01, 2016, 11:18:43 PM »
I-67 is a twin out of a first calf heifer and both he and his twin are in collection

NOt to side track the thread- I didn't know that. Interesting.


If the twin is not sterile no reason if he is what you are breeding for not to keep him as a bull. but as said previously, a twin has greater chance of throwing twins.

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The Big Show / Re: Is this calf any good?
« on: April 01, 2016, 11:07:56 PM »
There are alot of good things about your calf, I think there are alot of odd angles which may not flatter him. He has some natural thickness and style. It will be interesting to see how he develops. We have had great luck with Simmi influence on our shorthorns.

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The Big Show / Re: Speckled Parks in US?
« on: February 17, 2016, 03:13:20 PM »

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The Big Show / Re: Young Heifer Pregant
« on: February 17, 2016, 03:02:20 PM »
You can always have your vet palpate her to see if she has ample room and get a rough estimate of the calf size. We calved one out about same age. Just have to keep close eye on them. We didn't have any issues after with fertility.

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The Big Show / Re: shorty x angus fall calves
« on: February 17, 2016, 02:49:39 PM »
NICE bunch LJ!
Deep bodied soft made and looks like easy fleshing type.

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