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The Big Show / Re: Getting "The Hair" look
« on: August 11, 2011, 11:01:54 PM »
We all want you to make straight A's and win banners!  Hopefully this thread and Hair Growth 101 will help you out a lot.  Some calves just grow hair better than others, but a lot of work pays off.

You might have to get up earlier than you'd like, but if you are serious about making a go at showing cattle it takes lots of hard work, but will pay dividends in the show ring.  Your parents will also be proud of your hard work and dedication to making your animal the best it can be. 

The Big Show / Re: Favorite Breeds?
« on: August 11, 2011, 10:47:23 PM »
When it comes to cattle, I love em all!  My family has had cattle all my life, mostly Angus or Angus x Hereford.  In 2001, I got to purchase my first heifers that were mine.  Neighbor down the road had 2 registered Simmental heifers for sale.  I can still remember walking into his barn and seeing them!  Since then I have grown to love and appreciate the breed for many reasons. 

Simmental cattle have many attributes.  All the cattle on our farm, from the youngest calves and new additions to the oldest matrons are very docile.  Simmental cattle make great mother cows.  In Europe Simmental cattle are actually used not only for beef, but also as dairy animals in parts of France and Switzerland. Some parts of Europe also use them as draft animals, 3 purposes, one animal!

Today's Simmental cattle come in many colors.  Traditional Simmentals will be red and white, those colors can vary to shades of yellow over to chocolate.  Newer lines are black hided cattle.  Some have white markings from star and blaze faces to traditional marked with black hides.

I travel a lot with work, but with a Calving Ease EPD, we are able to breed to make sure our calves are coming easy, then the heavy milking mommas can get the growth on the calf once its here.

Sorry to ramble, these cattle have become a huge part of my life since I bought those first 2 heifers as a Freshman in high school.  Look forward to reading about other breeds.  Thanks for starting this thread!

Cattle For Sale / Re: Angus donor for sale
« on: August 11, 2011, 10:36:12 PM »
PM Price and Location

Yea I didn't have insurance on that female either.  Win some, lose some I guess.  Let me know how it turns out with the other eggs from this flush!

I should also add that I had one of these super cows 7 years ago as well....she got struck by lightening!  Seriously....thats my luck!

Get you some livestock insurance!  We bought a donor a few years ago that was one of 3 females with this mating.  Only one had been promoted heavy and had some outstanding progeny out there.  We purchased the donor, had someone call the day we bought her and say they would take every embryo we flushed out of her for the first two flushes at a set rate (a good one at that).  In my mind she was paid for after this deal if everything went well.  Cow cut her leg on who knows what the day before we picked her up from her previous owner.  He had their vet check her and doctor on the leg, everything to be fine.  Two weeks later (8 days before we were to start giving shots for the flush) she was down in the paddock near our barn.  She ate, drank, no problem but wouldn't get up.  Long story short next morning she was DEAD!  Sent her to one of NC State's research labs to see what happened.  Turns out leg got infected and infection spread all over her in two weeks....total loss!  Best of luck!

The Big Show / Re: Cattle shot, killed with bow and arrow: Oklahoma
« on: August 10, 2011, 11:02:04 PM »
Just makes you mad thinking about it.....

Hope they catch this jerk.

I'm interested!  Send me a pm with details!  You have to admit that it is kindof a neat surprise to find a red calf born to two black parents!  Gotta love Simmental cattle!

The embryos sticking only can be something with either the recips or the eggs, whether you go 0 for 10 or 0 for 16 (sure hope not). 

Not taking up for the semen, but the semen has done its role.

As mentioned earlier there are a number of factors that could have played a role including weather, feeding and embryo handling. 

What makes you step back and scratch your head a little harder is that all of this, including the recips were from the embryologist, so you would think he has the game down better than anyone....

I would question the timing of implanting the recips and the protocol used to prepare those females for the embryo.  If they were one day out of sync it increases your odds of that egg sticking. 

Regardless of what happened, I personally would take my chances putting all 6 of the other embryos in, and with the sales results of two progeny from this mating toping $20,000, I know a lot of farms where she wouldn't have a natural calf but would become the diva of the farm and get flushed regularly.  Best of luck!!!!

The Big Show / Re: Feeding bailed corn stalks
« on: August 10, 2011, 10:40:19 PM »
Interesting info old timer! I had not heard this.  I think the 20% range cubes will be a good source of protein to go along with the fiber/roughage source the baled corn stalks will provide.

You know your herd better than anyone, after feeding this ration you will see if your cattle are performing well on it or if you need to add to it, etc.

Best of luck.  We had a drought here in 2007, my first year back home from college.  I started feeding hay three weeks after I moved home from school, right at the start of summer....Praying you guys see some much needed water from the sky soon!

The Big Show / Re: Good Momma
« on: August 10, 2011, 10:35:45 PM »
Yea I agree with Wyatt.  I'd keep a close watch on her, good for the other two calves, but her natural calf might not get everything he's after with everyone eating of his buffet.

The Big Show / Re: My Cow eats dirt.
« on: August 10, 2011, 10:30:33 PM »
Different areas of the country often have somewhat different requirements in mineral programs.  We feed a high mag mineral free choice in mineral feeders.  Once the cattle get the amount they need they leave it alone.  It is a loose mineral and they seem to do better with it than they do on a block.

We have also mixed it in with our creep feed or range cubes, but I think the cattle get what they need better on their own than forcing it in their diet with it mixed in. 

In your case with the calf eating dirt, I might try mixing in a high mag mineral at one 50 lb bag of mineral per ton of feed and one 50 lb bag of loose salt per ton.  That will get it in his diet.  Not sure how much per day you are feeding him but guessing he is on show ration or close to it he will get those minerals quick.  Best of luck to you whichever route you go.

The Big Show / Re: your farm history?
« on: August 10, 2011, 08:28:24 AM »
Our family farm was started by my grandpa in the 1950's.  He farmed tobacco and ran cattle here in Northwest North Carolina.

In the late 60's their home place moved to where it is today.  They raised tobacco into the 1980's and then turned all their tobacco acres into pasture/hay.  My grandpa and dad ran Registered Angus cattle until 1994 when they dispersed the registered herd.  I then started feeding steers on the farm in the mid 1990's while in school. 

In 2001, at age 15, I built my own barn on the backside of the farm and bought my first two show heifers, both Registered Simmentals.  We had never really had a farm name, so in 2001 we formed 3D Farms LLC.  The 3 D's are for me, my mom and sister.  Our brand is attached below.  My Dad's name is Mark, so our brand is a M on its side like a 3 against the D.  Since 2001 our numbers have changed up and down but we have managed to grow the operation every year.  We currently run Registered Simmental and SimAngus cattle and are expecting our first Registered Angus ET calves to hit the ground next year. 

The Big Show / Re: Opinion on truck
« on: August 08, 2011, 06:54:01 PM »
In regard to bigger trucks, I've always heard:

If you want a truck, get a 1/2 ton, if you occasionally could use a truck, get a 3/4 ton, if you need a truck, get a ton. 

I have had a few F350's and a few F150's.  My F150 will pull my small trailer, but the 350 gets any job done I need.  Not promoting one brand over the other, just what I've personally owned.

The Big Show / Re: Barn Cameras?
« on: August 08, 2011, 03:50:30 PM »
Might still work, if they can run a line to it.  But it does need power to run the cameras and the recording unit or whatever you call it. 

The Big Show / Re: Barn Cameras?
« on: August 08, 2011, 03:00:10 PM »
Two are night vision.  Need an internet connection at your barn to view from computer but yes you can fix it to watch from a tv or a computer.  It can be viewed live or playback. 

Most phone companies can set you up a connection at your barn pretty inexpensive if you have power to it.

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