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The Big Show / Re: Wish list
« on: March 24, 2020, 03:39:49 PM »
Sounds good to me.

The recent market manipulation being allowed by the packers has to rank pretty high on my list. What they just pulled should be criminal and past events make it clear they are now confidant they can pull it off any time there is even the slightest of situations to cause concern.

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The Big Show / Re: Houston stock show and rodeo canceled???
« on: March 22, 2020, 09:39:42 PM »
future negotiations with china should involve elimination of live markets and a dramatic reduction in traditional medicine involving animal parts for fertility.


it's time to move on from the extinction of animals for fertility with 1.5 billion people.

Their lack of respect for human life and use of near slave labor wasn't reason enough for people to care. I'm afraid once this blows over it'll just take a new iPhone announcement, a few cheap trinkets, a new widget, and them buying a little more pork, sbm, and ddgs for everyone to forget.

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I must have the same affliction. A few of the lines I really appreciate are known carriers and I have some plans of continuing their use in the future. I also know I have used carrier bulls in the past and have tanks full of untested semen that I still enjoy dipping into, so I really need the walking bulls to be defect free. I guess I might consider a DS carrier if it's really nice and a bargain, but all TH, PHA, or e226x carriers are marked off the list.

Parentage testing is becoming pretty high on my list as it has caused several wrecks in several breeds lately. Not too long ago I paid a significant figure for a straw of semen and flushed a cow to the bull only to later find out his pedigree wasn't as advertised. One of the big reasons I did it was because the particular bull was the first son of a popular sire to display a different set of traits. Turns out, I was one of several people who did this for the same reasons. Looking back, it should have been obvious and a simple parentage test would have prevented it all. Quick to cash the checks, not so quick to follow the rules.

I just did another quick browse. I have several calves on the ground out of well advertised AI bulls that still do not have the required AI sire testing and parentage ran. I guess I really haven't learned my lesson yet.

I'm on the fence when it comes to 50k. Every college course, beef meeting, and online informational video has us drowning in its importance and effectiveness. I understand how reliant it is upon the data and can see the accuracies that went in to the base. If I'm buying a walking bull and using epds as a deciding factor, I'd like to see it done just so I don't have to a absorb whatever changes will happen in the future. I have however tested several of my own animals with both very expected and very confusing results, so I can see why some breeders/buyers might not fully buy into the system yet. Especially if they're using lines that are not well represented within the population or even believed to be improperly represented.

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The Big Show / Re: Breeding recommendations for my shorthorn cows.
« on: March 01, 2020, 09:42:00 AM »
I wish I could say I've had the same experiences as many others claim to have with HC. I've bred him to several heifers based on that reputation and it's bit me multiple times. Each time he didn't remove enough bone and went long on gestation. When I look at those calves, I can see a couple of the bulls back in his pedigree.

I do have a really nice bull calf by him out of a first calf heifer that looks special, and a cane or two of semen left, so it's not that I don't like the bull or plan to use him in the future but I'm done using him on heifers. It must just be my roll of the dice because every heifer breeding question you read on the internet says, "just breed her to HC".

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The Big Show / Re: Breeding recommendations for my shorthorn cows.
« on: February 29, 2020, 07:24:00 PM »
If these were my three cows and they still resemble those pictures, the goal would be to get one functional replacement to keep and a fancy heifer to sell.

I'd try Muridale Robert on the 1q cow hoping for the functional replacement female with her modern style. It would be a total outcross mating and should provide a little boost. You can find him in some threads on here where his owner has shared pics of him and his daughters. Just a real world momma maker with the pieces/traits that cow and cow lines probably need. I used a single straw of him and really wish I had used the whole cane and bought more. It is easily the best heifer in the keeper pen with several other AI and ET calves running along side her. I might even flush the cow back to him. I have no idea why more people haven't tried him.

If I was going to use Evolution on one, it would be the 7c cow. Her depth of rib would be the key to me being willing to use him there. For me, Evolution has been easier calving than Hot Commodity. All of his calves have came early as well, which is part of it. It seems like everyone and their brother has used HC, but he's still a well known name option.

I might get crazy and breed 7d to Perfection. He's new and unproven, but looks to have a few pieces of his sire with some changes. I've got what I think is a really nice heifer out of Near Perfect, his sire, and have seen a few others that were nice but the good ones have all been out of a different type of cow than she is. Perfection is just different enough I might try him on her and see if some of his line breeding gets unlocked on her pedigree. In a perfect world this could be the bull of the bunch and hopefully flashy enough to sell as a steer.

I'm fully aware this list looks like someone with ADHD, but trying new and different things is half the fun. <beer>

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The Big Show / Re: 2020 Denver Bulls
« on: February 25, 2020, 09:50:00 AM »
Is there a mature picture of Outsider?

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The Big Show / Re: Fort worth steer show
« on: February 09, 2020, 08:24:33 PM »
I only caught the grand drive. How did the overall quality compare to Kansas City?

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The Big Show / Re: 2020 Denver Bulls
« on: February 05, 2020, 06:14:09 PM »
Bull sold to guy named Rusty Thompson from Missouri and ST Genetics in Texas.  I hear both conventional and sexed will be available soon.

I think you mean Rusty Merideth, and his brother, at Merideth Land and Cattle. They've collected quite a few well bred animals over the last few years.


Corrected spelling on the last name.

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The Big Show / Re: 2020 Denver Bulls
« on: February 05, 2020, 12:36:36 PM »
Watched from home, but I thought the sale went well and it sounded like bulls went in all directions. I believe Times Square brought $50k.

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The Big Show / Re: Have any of you tried this for sexing semen
« on: February 05, 2020, 10:29:29 AM »
It's been around a long time. I don't know anyone who used it and is still a believer.

A well know genetics company has used it on some conventional flushes for customers over the years and a few years ago they couldn't come up with a single successful referral in their database.

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The Big Show / Re: Fort worth steer show
« on: February 03, 2020, 07:20:17 PM »
Most farmer/feeders I know want to blow right on by 1,400lbs in order to make money. They'd be begging the bankers to bail them out of a really deep hole if they fed a pen that ran out of steam at 1,000lbs.

There was a decent podcast awhile back about this subject and if it was time to at least make the weights and ages used to obtain them more commercially acceptable. I believe the guest host was Brandon Callis, so it wasn't just some random anti show guy rambling on the internet either.

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Anyone used a galloway like Pericles or this son of Moto Moto on white or roan shorthorns? His breeder used to post on here quite a bit-They were very cool looking cattle JMO

I tried, but did not end up with a calf. I think I still have a straw of two of sexed heifer Moto Moto I hope to use in the future.

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The Big Show / Re: 2020 Denver Bulls
« on: January 20, 2020, 03:28:24 PM »
Traits I definitely value.   Head small enough to make it out on its own.  Belly big enough to consume enough low quality forage to not starve to death in the pasture.   Looks incredibly long from hook to pin as well. A really well balanced bull overall.  I watched the pen show from the house via live auctions tv and even as shitty as the picture quality was, the prominence of Times Square relative to his peers was clear.    I image just the possession side will cost a fella prolly 20 grand. Maybe more.

One thing for sure.   Saskvalley Tradition is a bull thats gotta be used more.  Thermal Energy, Wallstreet, and now this bull- Times Square.   

In fact, if every SH cow in the country were bred to a Saskvalley bull, the overall quality of the breed triple overnight.

I noticed him as a stand out on the video as well and would like to try him on a few in the future, so I hope it's made available.

Totally different pedigree, but I think the bull you bought semen on in last night's sale is fairly underrated.

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The Big Show / Re: Heritage/Native Shorthorn Bull Listing
« on: January 18, 2020, 10:42:48 AM »
Based on what I have been reading and learning lately the F94l variant is also called the profit gene as it improves cutability without adding any calving difficulty.  So if it occurs in native Shorthorns why is it a bad thing?

It appears a Native homozygous F94L bull calf has recently been identified, so it appears to be readily available if a program is looking to add the gene to it's population.

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The Big Show / Re: Heritage/Native Shorthorn Bull Listing
« on: January 16, 2020, 07:25:56 PM »
Is there a stand alone database where animal pedigrees and defect status can be browsed or is this dependent upon the ASA and breeders maintaining dual registrations?

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