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The Big Show / Re: Looking for pipettes to AI from ampules
« on: April 09, 2019, 08:25:08 AM »
If you order some new semen straws, you can use a needle and syringe to pull the semen into them and then breed as usual. I want to say it requires a 12ga to fit the straw right, but would have to check to be sure. Local vet claims you can use the 1/4 straws and a smaller needle to spread the amp out over more cows if needed.

The Big Show / Re: Concealed / Open Firearms Carry
« on: April 04, 2019, 09:18:47 AM »
I rarely carry anymore, but when I do it's always concealed. The last thing I want is to be a known threat if something should ever happen. Being the unknown threat significantly shifts the odds in my favor. Missouri no longer requires a permit to carry concealed. If you can own the gun, I believe you should be able to carry the gun however you want. It's yours.  Some of the laws in the North East make it nearly impossible to use a weapon in defense in any significant way while traveling. It's insane, and they can be quite aggressive during prosecution.

Some of those well educated fringe types who push open carry laws to the limits do serve a purpose to those of us who carry, if they do it right. Most aren't educated enough to do it in a way that's a positive though.

Even the existence of a list of "permit holders" always seemed like a liability to me. In todays world, no list is secure. The opposition wouldn't think twice about using that list against anyone on it.

The Big Show / Re: Red Dirt Treasure sale
« on: April 01, 2019, 10:58:27 PM »
is there a link to the sale?
See if this works...

They have invested heavily in some of these genetics, so I hope the sale goes well.

There's also a few pretty nice AF cows in it that have produced some calves that sold quite well the last few years.

The Big Show / Re: Muridale Raw Hide 6 E
« on: March 15, 2019, 11:54:20 PM »
Do you find theres any significant relationship between actual tenderness and the Igenity testing? Has there been any research on this?

Were there even any Shorthorns used in the development of the test?

The Big Show / Re: Blue roan or white shorthorn calving ease?
« on: March 03, 2019, 09:40:05 AM »
I had forgot about Blue Moon.

I'm not seeing much else out there for calving ease half bloods.

The Big Show / Blue roan or white shorthorn calving ease?
« on: February 28, 2019, 08:28:29 PM »
I'm looking for a half blood blue roan or a white shorthorn calving ease bull to use on heifers. Calving ease first and clean fronted second. Would help if there was some milk in the lines. Is there anything new out there that's worth trying?

The Big Show / Re: Electronic Heat Detection Systems
« on: February 20, 2019, 09:36:12 PM »
I have said for years the best heat detector is a bad float on the water trough.

Please explain your comment "the best heat detector is a bad float on the water trough".

Mix water with the right kind of clay and it sticks to the sides of their ankles and will out mark just about anything. If you can force them to walk through or stand in two different mud holes for just a little while it's even better. One at the waterer and one at the mineral station generally works well.

The Big Show / Re: Direct marketing of Shorthorn beef
« on: February 19, 2019, 12:09:23 PM »
a couple of outlets does something similar at farmers markets out here.

interestingly, in Scotland, fresh fish is delivered by truck to neighborhoods the same way milk was delivered in the US until the 80's. our neighbor had fresh delivered milk every other day or so.  would always beg to get a glass as it was whole milk. still pasteurized though at that point.  there is a place or two that still sells unpasteurized milk here and it is great.  lots of obvious worry about disease, though they are inspected waaaaay more than any other dairies.

I've looked into a couple of these.

There is a weekly milk route not too far from me. Glass returnable bottles, flavored milk, ice creams, maybe even butter, the whole works. It seems to be keeping that producer from going broke in the current dairy industry. They do not want to add another product to their line as they fear a bad experience could risk the current premium on their own products.

There is also a "milk man" route a little farther away from me. The truck also delivers in season vegetables and some meat weekly into a lockable cooler/box you buy and put on your property. They're selling the story as well and everything is sourced locally. There are significant costs involved with sorting and delivering each specific order. So much so, it consumes most of the premium and the individual meat producers are left with cheap pay for the extra work and all the risk involved in exposing their name.

I could see these continuing to grow if established customers in localized communities could be gathered in order to specialize routes with defined "weekly special" packages to allow easier sorting/boxing of products.

The Big Show / Re: Direct marketing of Shorthorn beef
« on: February 18, 2019, 10:08:04 AM »
Have generally sold 10-15 a year here, but the locker I was using sold and is now not what it once was so I don't know how long I'll stick with it. It seems to be an issue everywhere as they slowly close down leaving producers no where to go. Booking a kill date 6 months out makes hitting the mark and closing a sale very difficult. Apparently, you can keep an older locker open much easier than you can build a new one and no one is building new. They all have a constant employee roll over as well.

When I tried to expand into a suburb a few years ago, I found very few people actually knew how to prepare meals. If you feed one right and age it properly they loved the beef, IF they can figure out how to prepare it. 40 year old men who can't run a grill, it was eye opening and I finally just decided it wasn't worth the hassle considering the distance. If you'd put together a packet on how to prepare the various cuts and educate them on cooking temps, I think it would help. You'd think the thousands of beef check off dollars all of us are paying into the system would be tackling this problem.

Up until recently there was a shorthorn buyer marketing beef in Missouri. It faded away, mostly due to non cattle reasons I believe, but they were marketing on tenderness and seemed to move quite a few cattle.

The Big Show / Re: University of Illinois Sire Test
« on: February 15, 2019, 04:26:04 PM »
Im not on FB and now that I see Lee Millers name on the committee I have to assume there is something being done. Lee is as good of a person as Ive ever met in this business. I dont know the others but I know for a fact Lee wants this breed to grow and improve. It still is frustrating to have a disconnect or a perceived disconnect between members and directors.

I was referring earlier to the higher ups being the ones who ran Bolze out.None of those mentioned above are the ones who did this.  Thats where the disconnect began though. Bolze was going to do the breed a lot of good in my opinion. . I have not called any BODs nor have I called the ASA. Ive spoke with others who have tried to and gotten nowhere. I also just started registering cattle again and I submitted more than just a BW. If the butcher we use had a freakin live scale Id submit the weights at slaughter as well. Maybe Ill buy me a scale soon to take those other measurements needed. Like cow weights and all that.

If you start turning in cow weights at weaning, you'll be one of the very few of any breed. It seems that no one wants to admit how big their cows are. I'm not sure what everyone fears, despite what all the magazines tell us, it seems like the average cow man here very rarely, if ever, picks the 1,000lb cow out of a pen that has 1,300-1,400lb cows in it. They're probably even more likely to pick a 1,600lb cow over the 1,000lb cow.

I do wish they would have measured the calves in the sire test. It only takes a few seconds to stick one when you've already got them in the scale and it would have helped to have an idea on frame when looking at the weights.

The Big Show / Re: University of Illinois Sire Test
« on: February 15, 2019, 10:56:57 AM »
Who is on this commercial acceptance committee ?

Its clear to me the higher ups in the shorthorn breed dont want commercial acceptance. They want to keep doing what theyre doing. A small group of breeders control the direction of the whole breed. What a joke.

Assuming the website is up to date it's Rick Osterday, Lee Miller, Ed Kruse, & Matt Woolfolk.

I sit through one one of the committee conference calls quite a while back, but I forget which committee it actually was. There was a lot of ideas discussed from some highly respected sources as well as relatively unknown breeders. It wasn't long after that a positive change was implemented based on input from breeders who were on that call. I can't think of a single name on the call that I'd consider to be a part of the small group I assume you refer to.

Have you checked out the current BOD or spoke with any of them one on one? I think you might find their conversations interesting. Even the ones who make their money selling halter animals have commercial acceptance on their minds and want the system set up for those who concentrate solely on commercial animals to be able to succeed.

Recent Facebook conversations make it pretty clear some of the commercial breeders are very ok with doing nothing and bitching form the sidelines instead of getting educated and doing what they can. I'm to the point that any commercial breeder who is not turning in data beyond bw might as well be a fly on the wall. I have many issues with many things, but complaining without even basic data participation does no one any good.

The Big Show / Re: Dabla cow suggestions
« on: February 13, 2019, 11:17:18 AM »
Also, shorthorns dont allow fullbloods any more.

Does this mean your cow is not already in the database as 3/4 Short?

The Big Show / Re: List of triple clean Shorthorn bulls
« on: February 12, 2019, 11:06:50 AM »
What companies test for it......I wonder out loud.

You can test for it just like the other three defects through the ASA. You just have to check the box on the far right and write in Myostatin on the form. I believe they charged me $27 on the last one I ran.

The Big Show / Re: List of triple clean Shorthorn bulls
« on: February 12, 2019, 10:29:05 AM »
Myostatin is the enemy of IMF/marbling, and I would think it would be advantageous in a grading system to know which cattle carry the myostatin mutation. There are several different mutations, some of which produce more muscle than others. It is possible not to know a single myostatin mutation carrier animal as it could appear much the same as a normal animal with a little more muscle than normal. Going by the myostatin mutations appearing in the SH breed in the UK and Ireland I would say their ancestry would suggest there are myostatin mutation carriers in both the Canadian and USA population of SH.

There are.

People just aren't talking about it.

The Big Show / Re: List of triple clean Shorthorn bulls
« on: February 07, 2019, 09:26:43 AM »
Hot Commodity is triple clean.

All active AI sires are required to have testing on file in the database. The list of triple clean bulls is very long with something for just about everyone to chose from.

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