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I'm surprised I haven't seen any comments on SAV America, the Angus bull that set a new record with a 1,107 pound 205 day weaning weight.  85 lb. birth weight to 1,107 at 205 days is quite impressive.  I would imagine he weaned at over 1/2 his dam's weight!

Is this an adjusted weight?

The 50% isn�t quite as impressive when they�ve been on full feed since birth.

Real good chance that 1107 still isn�t 50% either.

Thats crazy even on full feed-what does he look like?

As with any SAV bull you gotta let the smoke clear, let some early adopters use them and see which ones are actually useful.  SAV America himself isn't real big framed but as you can imagine was extremely fat. If I'm not mistaken SAV sell all their bulls untested so that's a risk the buyers take I guess. Although I understand the buyers insure them for fertility so Herbster won't be out much if he never passes. I've never been a Charlo fan so I don't have much interest in SAV President or SAV America unless they prove me wrong down the road.

should have been a steer and the data would have been more useful.


then, clone him and or others, before slaughter and don't feed him to the point of sterility.

I think he�s part plant. Has a photosynthesis gene.

I wonder if they have problems with fertility if they don't gaurentee em.

With their sale being so early in the year, I think that is one of the reasons they do not semen test their bulls prior to the sale. I am seeing this in several other early sales now, especially if it has been a cold winter along with an early sale. A semen test is only a snapshot of the semen quality in a moment of time. I have seen bulls go from not passing their breeding soundness exam to passing it easily in one week. This year, I had a March born bull who was deferred for proximal droplets, which are basically immature semen. The bull was 11 months old and it was brutally cold when we tested in February. This bull was tested again 3 weeks later and he scored 92%, but it had warmed up by then and the bull was 3 weeks older.
A few years ago, I happened to arrive at Hawkeye Breeders, in Iowa on the same day as several SAV bulls arrived for collection after their sale. One of the guys at Hawkeye told me that lots of the SAV bulls they get, take a few months to start to produce freezable semen. He also said that every SAV bull that arrives gets a special mineral bolus and this has seemed to help get them to freeze sooner.( this has something to do with the water quality at SAV if I remember correctly). SAV are not alone if this is the case, as I have heard this happening with bulls from several other leading breeders. In any event, and no matter how they collect their data at SAV, one has to marvel at their breeding and marketing abilities and how they have produced some genetics that have become leaders in the Angus breed. I would not doubt that you can find SAV genetics in almost every country in the world that has Angus cattle. And this just wouldn't be happening if the cattle they produce did not offer something that works.