Aggies headed east to the SEC???

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Rumors swirling, I know we have some A&M grads that can maybe give us some insight on what they are hearing.  It sounds like the rest of the big 12 (9 last teams) would stay together and possibly look to add.  I couldn't get the article to pull up from the A&M rivals, but got the longhorn article.



http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1250840



August 22 appears to be D-Day for the 10-member Big 12 as we know it.

Three sources close to the situation said Texas A&M's regents board will meet on August 22 to deliberate and likely vote on an application to join the Southeastern Conference as early as 2012.

Texas A&M System spokesman Jason Cook denied reports that A&M has already agreed to join the SEC.


UT AD DeLoss Dodds said this week he'd like to see the Big 12 stay alive - with or without Texas A&M.
"There's no agreement in principle, nothing," Cook told Orangebloods.com.

Two sources said the SEC presidents are being gathered Saturday in an emergency meeting to address the possible addition of Texas A&M.

The sources said the Aggies' nine-member regents board is leaning toward leaving the Big 12 and are being fueled by a lack of confidence in the current configuration of the league - i.e. the relationship between Texas and ESPN (the Longhorn Network) and how it could negatively impact the rest of the members.

There's growing concern in the Big 12 that A&M is already well down the road toward joining the SEC.

According to multiple sources close to the situation, Aggies' president Bowen Loftin met with SEC officials prior to an Aug. 1 meeting among Big 12 athletic directors in Dallas to discuss how to co-exist with Texas and its Longhorn Network (LHN).

Loftin apparently aired A&M's grievances against LHN to SEC officials during the meeting. Cook said he wasn't aware of any such meeting.

"I think this is pretty far along," one administrator at a Big 12 school said of A&M's courtship with the SEC.

One of A&M's concerns - LHN airing high school games - was eliminated on Thursday when the NCAA ruled no high school games would be allowed to be shown on school or conference networks.

But it didn't appear the NCAA's ruling would have much bearing on A&M's momentum toward the SEC, sources said.

The question is if anything can slow the apparent momentum. Sources across the Big 12 said lawmakers were being contacted in hopes of reaching Texas A&M officials to fully consider preserving all the history and tradition between Texas A&M and the Texas schools in the Big 12.

The SEC has been eerily quiet about all the speculation surrounding Texas A&M. But sources said SEC commissioner Mike Slive and Texas A&M president Bowen Loftin have formed a relationship since Slive visited College Station last June during the Big 12 Missile Crisis.

Loftin was impressed by Slive when it appeared half the Big 12 was headed to the Pac-10, and Slive made a pitch to Texas A&M to head east - not west.

The two have spoken intermittently since then, sources said. Bowen's most recent visit with Slive apparently happened on SEC turf two weeks ago, according to sources.

Upon learning of Loftin's alleged meeting with SEC officials before huddling with Big 12 ADs on Aug. 1, one official at a Big 12 school questioned the Aggies and their Code of Honor, which states, "An Aggie does not lie, cheat or steal, or tolerate those who do."

The source said Texas A&M made a 10-year pledge to hold the Big 12 Conference together when ABC/ESPN vowed a year ago to keep paying the Big 12 as if it was still a 12-member league with a championship game. The source also questioned if A&M might be liable for breach of contract after signing a 13-year, $1.17 billion TV contract with Fox Sports for the Big 12's second-tier rights to football in April.

An A&M source told Orangebloods.com the Aggies are having their lawyers look at everything, including the exit fees A&M would have to pay to leave the Big 12.

Under the current bylaws, Texas A&M would be required to relinquish 80 percent of revenues over a two-year period if the Aggies left with only a year's notice.

Nebraska and Colorado were able to pay substantially less than that by settling with the Big 12.

Sources said Thursday the SEC would be interested in adding Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and Virginia Tech in addition to Texas A&M to form a 16-team super conference. Florida State has also been mentioned as a possible target of the SEC, according to Big 12 sources.

Two officials at separate Big 12 schools said Oklahoma and Oklahoma State would stay in the Big 12 as long as the other schools were willing to stay together. A third official in the Big 12 said the remaining nine schools were "solid."

Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds said Wednesday it would be Texas' goal to hold the Big 12 together. But if there wasn't sentiment for that he said Texas and a school like Notre Dame should look at starting their own conference. Dodds has said he is against Texas going independent.

A high-ranking official at a Big 12 school said the Pac-12 could re-enter the picture if Texas A&M leaves for the SEC. The official said Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott has indicated he would love to set up regional networks in Oklahoma and Texas Tech to accommodate Oklahoma and Oklahoma State as well as Texas and Texas Tech.

Scott didn't respond to an e-mail Thursday night.

Such a plan by Scott would require a complete re-working of the 20-year, $300 million Longhorn Network contract between Texas and ESPN, which is obviously a massive undertaking that would require Texas to give a little in terms of revenue sharing.

Stay tuned.
 

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Its gonna happen, and im all for it.
ESPN and the tu sips got what they wanted. See ya later Big12-3
No way Notre Dame gets in on this that is sip bull, why would they do that when they have had a open invite from the BIG10 for ever now.
Calling us out on the Honor Code is BS : "An Aggie does not lie, cheat or steal, or tolerate those who do." tu lies its what their good at
So much butthurt in Austin right now,Talk of texas being in bed with Austin lobbying and PR firm HillCo Partners in effort to keep A&M from joining SEC
Tu alums trying to give and or withhold campaign money from Rick Perry "Aggie" depending on how this goes to be legislature cant stop it this time, there not in session.
August 22nd is our Texas Independence day. Going East personally i hope we bring Mizz with us. The rest OU, Okie lite, Tceh, and tu can go to the PAC. Baylor will end up in Conference USA
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Which pretty easily destroys the "A&M is running away" claims.  As far as football goes, the SEC is a huge step up from any conference.  Men's basketball will be a step down and women's a wash.  College baseball?  No comparison, I think I'll start making more trips to College Station in the spring because of that baseball schedule.

I said it last year and I'll say it again, the best thing that could come out of this is to wean the A&M culture off of the 'tu sip' hatred.

Are they trying to get away from Texas?  Yeah, the SEC is the SEC but that also plays a big part in it.  You don't see perennial powerhouses starting conference realignment in the Pac-12 because of USC.  Michigan State isn't trying to bolt from the Big 10, oh, sorry, the B1G 10 because they're tired of dealing with Ohio State.  Nobody in the SEC is trying to ditch the conference to get out from the shadow of Alabama.

But Nebraska and now a school that bases its fight song on UT are both ditching the Big XII because of Texas and its not because nobody can beat them (oops, sorry Nebraska).  There's a reason for it.
 

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as a KSU alum and fan I for one hope that aTm doesn't leave.  I know what it will PROBABLY do to KSU, KU, ISU, Baylor, if it happens.  The big east is a possibility, but if aTm leaves does anyone think that the big12-3 would be able to pick up 1-3 teams to keep it together?  Cinciy, Louisville, Houstin, TCU, etc...?  Just a question. 
 

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Davis Shorthorns said:
as a KSU alum and fan I for one hope that aTm doesn't leave.  I know what it will PROBABLY do to KSU, KU, ISU, Baylor, if it happens.  The big east is a possibility, but if aTm leaves does anyone think that the big12-3 would be able to pick up 1-3 teams to keep it together?  Cinciy, Louisville, Houstin, TCU, etc...?  Just a question. 

I feel the same way that you do.  It seems to me that if we lose A&M, they will probably try to add a couple teams, but we will be just delaying the inevitable.  The Big east would be a potential fit for KU and KSU, but the travel would suck and we would definitely go down a football tier and stay the same or go up a basketball tier.



http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs...1081614001.htm
 

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I tell you what, you folks have fun with this guy in charge...

COLLEGE STATION – Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe has told Texas A&M that Texas holds the key to the long-term future of the Big 12, and that the Big 12 would survive without the Aggies, according to an A&M official.

The Big 12 also believes the University of Houston would be a viable candidate to replace the Aggies, the A&M official said. All signs point to the Aggies bolting the Big 12 for the Southeastern Conference. The A&M regents are meeting on Aug. 22 and an announcement about the SEC might follow soon after.

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/aggies/2011/08/aggies-out-uh-in-for-the-big-12/
 

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I hope that A&M stay's in the Big 12 even if Old World Shortie did call OSU "okie lite".  I guess that would make y'all Texas Xtra Light.  LOL
 

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Jeff_Schroeder said:
Don't worry too much, Doses says he's working on a list os 20 schools for possible replacement. 

Yes, Dodds.

Not Beebe.
If they had a list of replacements don't you think they would've already tried to replace nebraska and colorado???
The big 12 is falling apart, tech is already talking about going pac 12 or mountain  west when it breaks up, baylor's talking about "trying" to go ivy league, who cares what TU is going to do.
THE BIG 12 IS ON SELF DESTRUCT... end of discussion
 

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OLD WORLD SHORTIE said:
Its gonna happen, and im all for it.
ESPN and the tu sips got what they wanted. See ya later Big12-3
No way Notre Dame gets in on this that is sip bull, why would they do that when they have had a open invite from the BIG10 for ever now.
Calling us out on the Honor Code is BS : "An Aggie does not lie, cheat or steal, or tolerate those who do." tu lies its what their good at
So much butthurt in Austin right now,Talk of texas being in bed with Austin lobbying and PR firm HillCo Partners in effort to keep A&M from joining SEC
Tu alums trying to give and or withhold campaign money from Rick Perry "Aggie" depending on how this goes to be legislature cant stop it this time, there not in session.
August 22nd is our Texas Independence day. Going East personally i hope we bring Mizz with us. The rest OU, Okie lite, Tceh, and tu can go to the PAC. Baylor will end up in Conference USA
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Turn-Coat Cry Babies!!!  The conference was best as the Big 8.  Maybe the REAL programs can make it happen again.
 

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Then why not just let us go on about our way. I know the Oklahoma schools really don't want to get involved seeing as how 80% of their teams are filled with kids from Texas. But in the end this is like a shot gun wedding, and A&M just bolted out the bathroom window and left the big12-3 standing at the alter. If by turn-coat you mean going to play in the greatest conference in the land yea, then i guess your right, but at least we will be in a conference where we can be treated as equals regardless of the teams. Have fun in the longhorn conference, and in the eternal words of Rick Perry "adios mofo".
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Latest report is that SEC is not looking at add another team.  Is this just posturing?  A possible theory is that they don't want to be held liable for the breaking up the new tv contract that the big 12 secured.

I do know there are too many false rumors and people stating information as fact, when it is no where a done deal either way.
 

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The Big 12 can survive, and the TV contracts will still be valid.  But if they all move elsewhere in the end, who cares?  I am kind of excited by some of the changes in match ups.  Kinda like bowl season all year long.  I am not a Husker fan, but look forward to seeing how they fare up north. 

I don't see why A&M fans think that moving will give them any better shot at a national title?  If the SEC is such a better conference, and you are at the top of your old conference that is one thing.  But I don't recall A&M consistently leading the pack.  So calling the BIG 12 a lesser conference, just knocks themselves down even further. 
 

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I was traveling all day yesterday and got to hear lots of sports talk - other than A & M the talk was that FL State, Clemson, and Missouri were also considering moves ?????????  it really doesn't matter to me who comes in or who don't because the SEC Champ is more than likely going to play in the BCS Championship Game regardless ???!!!
 

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A&M has a lot in common culture wise with SEC.  It likely has a lot to do with other aspects than just football.
 

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chambero said:
A&M has a lot in common culture wise with SEC.  It likely has a lot to do with other aspects than just football.

I agree ! It would be nice to make a road trip out to TX !
 

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From what I got on ESPN early this morning, the SEC WILL NOT be extending any invitations.  Looks like no Big 12 teams will be moving.
 
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