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American cattle experiment
« on: February 09, 2011, 12:32:34 PM »
what do you think about breeding a monopoly cow with the american bull JT or Joe B?  would i get ABC calves that would class?

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Re: American cattle experiment
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2011, 12:40:29 PM »
yeah i think you would get a calf to class in a heartbeat out of one of those bulls. also american gangster would give you an american and ive seen some good calves out of mighty mouse
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Re: American cattle experiment
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2011, 01:50:09 PM »
the only problem crossing the american bull to exotic cow is potentially how much american characteristics. We have always had better luck throwing an exotic bull on american cows then vise versa... the bulls you named should work as they have for many other just dont be too set on it being american enough comin out of an exotic cow sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. If you could post a pic it would be easier to compare which bull to match her though.

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Re: American cattle experiment
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2011, 06:06:56 PM »
Probably not.  but maybe.  That's the way raising americans go.

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Re: American cattle experiment
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2011, 06:59:19 PM »
yeah its hit or miss. those that are on the edge are the ones that do the best in the ring. and also do the worst. (as me and dcc show cattle know  (thumbsup))
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Re: American cattle experiment
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2011, 07:02:16 PM »
ya braden your right and guys its worth a try i was just coverin my rear before i told someone for sure it would work!

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Re: American cattle experiment
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2011, 07:58:28 PM »
Thanks.  I have a few brangus cows but their frame size is extreamly large.  I dont think they will throw a calf with a mod enough frame to work.  i guess i could use a smaller clubby bull, but i dont know of one that i like enough to buy seman on.  what is yalls opinion?

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Re: American cattle experiment
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2011, 08:00:20 PM »
On straight brangus calves you have a really good chance of getting a calf that would class, on a crossbred american cow not so much.
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Re: American cattle experiment
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2011, 08:12:43 PM »
A guy once told me that it was better to have quality instead of quantity if you arent confident in a bull to use it might be worth tryin to wait til you find a cow to base your work around and start small. Remember though a live calf is worth so much regardless ai sire or just a regular pasture bull. Just some tips I haven't done this long but have been around some extremely intellegent people in the business. But on straight brangus cattle we have had luck with jimmy the greek, power plus, heatwave, and ammo.

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Re: American cattle experiment
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2011, 08:57:51 AM »
Will jimmy the greek or power plus downsize the frame enough to make it work?  I know we can alter its fed to stunt his growth but i dont want to make it too difficult to manage.

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Re: American cattle experiment
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2011, 10:58:11 AM »
All the jimmys have been bred to fairly moderate cattle so im not to sure there but the power plus for sure has kept them the right size for med and heavy weights all have shown around 1280-1320 pretty fresh and thats december and january babies. If you want to try it you still have plenty of time to work it out we are just now tryin to get cattle bred. I have a power plus out of a quarter blood brangus female that will be in San Antonio if you would like to see him.

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Re: American cattle experiment
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2011, 03:26:55 PM »
I would greatly appriciate seeing some pics.  So u think power plus will downsize enough? 

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Re: American cattle experiment
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2011, 07:26:10 PM »
that would be the calf we took to fort worth. dont remember what he was out of. monopoly and something dcc show cattle will know
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Re: American cattle experiment
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2011, 09:08:34 PM »
thats out of a quarter blood brangus female no clubby to his dam. But this calf is out of Power Plus and a quarter blood brangus female

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Re: American cattle experiment
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2011, 08:48:02 AM »
Eyes On The Money...Nice and moderate and would add power...go to www.truegertcattle.com  and the little bull calf there on the home page is an Eyes On The Money on a full blood Gert cow that Joe Shelby raised...

Thanks.  I have a few brangus cows but their frame size is extreamly large.  I dont think they will throw a calf with a mod enough frame to work.  i guess i could use a smaller clubby bull, but i dont know of one that i like enough to buy seman on.  what is yalls opinion?
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