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Offline redsimmsnangus

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Re: Any thoughts on Red Simmental Bulls out there
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2013, 08:02:59 PM »
No doubt he might have something to offer, but many would cringe at his BW and CE EPDs.  Hard to sell any Simmi bulls around here with those kind of numbers, even though Angus or RA with far worse CE will sell no problem. Whatever.  ???

I tried Traxs Rushmore (ABS) and got a pretty good heifer out of the deal.  I would prefer a bit more bone and she has more leather than some would prefer but she is a brick, without losing femininity.  Used him again this year. Interested to see how she pans out as a cow.

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Re: Any thoughts on Red Simmental Bulls out there
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2013, 08:19:43 PM »
Amego,, red bull or game on could be options

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Re: Any thoughts on Red Simmental Bulls out there
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2013, 10:06:37 PM »
We've used Amigo, they are just so so. Good calving ease, but we sure do not like what he did to the udder on the heifer. Her dam has the most perfect udder (she is a Hummer), and the Amigo calf has really long nipples that are big. She is nursing her first calf this year, and really sucking down on weight and her calf is little. So, I do not think we will use him again. Bull calves seem to lack power for us also.
Like an earlier poster said, it depends on what your goals are. Red Iron calves look good, and we like the Beef Maker calves. We bred our angus heifers to Beef maker, we will see in about 3 weeks how they look. I really like the looks of LN's bull, Yukon. I am eagerly looking forward to some pictures soon. Same with Homeboy.
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Re: Any thoughts on Red Simmental Bulls out there
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2013, 10:31:21 PM »
The birth weight on the Yankee bull is a bit of a problem but it is manageable for a purebred breeder if bred to the right cows.  Your Birth weight EPDs will not go sky high if you think ahead and don't use hi on high BW EPD cows.  Tne big problem is just about all the solid red and black simmentals go back to the same stock if you go back far enough.  This bull offers a way out of the trap of no genetic variation. Plus he has no Angus in him.

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Re: Any thoughts on Red Simmental Bulls out there
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2013, 12:12:51 PM »
Mark, you are correct on the birth weight for the Yankee bull.  I actually look more at the calving ease number if the accuracy is high enough as that gives a better idea of the calf's confirmation than birth weight.  I'll take the higher weight if it comes easy enough.  The old Siimy bull Eagle was considered a top 10% calving ease bull in his day and he is + 3.2# birth weight with + 4.8 calving ease with is now in the 90% of the breed.  They really have come a long way. 
Older reds that would make good calves are GW-CPL Red Alert for purebred and PRL Porthouse Regent for fullblood

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Re: Any thoughts on Red Simmental Bulls out there
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2013, 03:36:27 PM »
We've used Amigo, they are just so so. Good calving ease, but we sure do not like what he did to the udder on the heifer. Her dam has the most perfect udder (she is a Hummer), and the Amigo calf has really long nipples that are big. She is nursing her first calf this year, and really sucking down on weight and her calf is little. So, I do not think we will use him again. Bull calves seem to lack power for us also.
Like an earlier poster said, it depends on what your goals are. Red Iron calves look good, and we like the Beef Maker calves. We bred our angus heifers to Beef maker, we will see in about 3 weeks how they look. I really like the looks of LN's bull, Yukon. I am eagerly looking forward to some pictures soon. Same with Homeboy.

I've heard reports from other breeders on Yukon's calves born this past thing and they said they came small and took off like weeds growing. I haven't seen any personally, but my Yukon calves will be here in a couple weeks!
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