Quantcast Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?

Sponsors







Author Topic: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?  (Read 14128 times)

Offline ELBEE

  • County Champion Poster
  • *****
  • Posts: 635
  • Karma 60
  • Wymore TH/PHA Free
    • View Profile
    • elbeefarms
Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« on: May 04, 2010, 08:56:57 AM »
True or false? Heard they are combining the herd books? I didn't get any answers out of Omaha! Anybody know Sarah Pedelty?
"My father and grandfather were great men among men, but first and foremost, men of God. I ask that God give me the power of the Holy Spirit through His Son Jesus Christ to be like them."  Lee Bigham

Offline aj

  • National Champion Poster
  • **********
  • Posts: 6233
  • Karma 175
    • View Profile
Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2010, 09:01:44 AM »
Sue might know. (dog)
People can't believe we have such a big moon for such a small town.

Offline justintime

  • State Champion Poster
  • ******
  • Posts: 4329
  • Karma 303
  • HC Free Spirit 6Y
    • View Profile
    • Horseshoe Creek Farms Ltd.
Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2010, 09:09:37 AM »
I haven't heard anything about this in the US. Here in Canada, the Lincoln Red went into the Canadian Shorthorn herdbook probably 30 years ago. Then about 5 -6 years ago, they seperated so that Lincoln Red have their own herd book again. There are very few Lincoln Red left in Canada so it is really not a big deal anymore.
Experience is what you get when you don't have it when you need it.

Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and bad breath!
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity
If love is blind... why is lingerie so popular?
The only thing worse than an idiot ... is an educated idiot!

Offline sue

  • County Champion Poster
  • *****
  • Posts: 1906
  • Karma 90
    • View Profile
    • www.lakesidecattle.com
Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2010, 07:03:21 PM »
Sue might know. (dog)

I didnt even know what a Lincoln red was until this winter? Hey I am driving through KS next week!! ELbee I still know how to get to your place I think. AJ I left a message- hope I had the right number? I think you're on the way to Fieser's??
Registered Red Angus x Shorthorn Composite Cattle. www.lakesidecattle.com

Offline HSV (Horseshoe Valley Shorthorns)

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 70
  • Karma 0
    • View Profile
Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2010, 08:50:25 PM »
In my opinion, separating the Lincoln Reds back out of the Shorthorn Registry in Canada, really hurt the Lincoln Red portion of the breed. I heard a rumor that this was done to get endangered species status or the equivalent. It is difficult enough to be a Shorthorn Breeder here in Canada with our small numbers, I can't imagine how difficult it would be to be a stand alone Lincoln Red breeder.

Offline ELBEE

  • County Champion Poster
  • *****
  • Posts: 635
  • Karma 60
  • Wymore TH/PHA Free
    • View Profile
    • elbeefarms
Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2010, 10:23:31 PM »
I would consider using a Lincoln Red bull if he was not Shorthorn Plus status. I believe it would be a better deal than the Red aNGUS thing.

The Lincoln Reds I saw 30+ years ago at Pleasant Valley in Brandon Iowa were the real deal. They were just the wrong side of the road for the 70's-80's trend.
"My father and grandfather were great men among men, but first and foremost, men of God. I ask that God give me the power of the Holy Spirit through His Son Jesus Christ to be like them."  Lee Bigham

Offline knabe

  • National Champion Poster
  • **********
  • Posts: 12846
  • Karma 352
    • View Profile
Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2010, 10:35:49 PM »
True or false? Heard they are combining the herd books? I didn't get any answers out of Omaha! Anybody know Sarah Pedelty?

Hi ELBEE!

Offline aj

  • National Champion Poster
  • **********
  • Posts: 6233
  • Karma 175
    • View Profile
Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2010, 09:08:09 AM »
Looks like Lincoln Reds are polled with a dark red color. I wasn't really aware of them. One thing about the Durham Reds is they have various shades of red. From orange to a darker red. I would think that orange would be less desirable. I think the Durham Reds need to be taken directly to the commercial people. They won't work in the showring.
People can't believe we have such a big moon for such a small town.

Offline r.n.reed

  • County Champion Poster
  • *****
  • Posts: 609
  • Karma 37
    • View Profile
    • www.kapercattle.com
Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2010, 09:34:18 AM »
I went to the Dixie National in the early 80's with the Land of Lincoln Reds.They had a bull called Laidlaw with a butt on him like the Mohican influenced cattle and he was super sound.I think the polled herefords had their national show down there that year and the Laidlaw bull had the most interest in the place.I could never figure out why the breed did not latch on to that type instead of the Illawara stuff.
Gary Kaper

Offline ELBEE

  • County Champion Poster
  • *****
  • Posts: 635
  • Karma 60
  • Wymore TH/PHA Free
    • View Profile
    • elbeefarms
Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2010, 09:45:03 AM »
I have a nice picture of Laidlaw, and had the opportunity to see him. Very impressive beasty by today's standards!

I'm always keeping my eyes open to better marketing strategies for Shortys, obviously statictics are not enough. We have to deceive the "eye", I believe Lincoln Reds are capable of that deception.
"My father and grandfather were great men among men, but first and foremost, men of God. I ask that God give me the power of the Holy Spirit through His Son Jesus Christ to be like them."  Lee Bigham

Offline justintime

  • State Champion Poster
  • ******
  • Posts: 4329
  • Karma 303
  • HC Free Spirit 6Y
    • View Profile
    • Horseshoe Creek Farms Ltd.
Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2010, 11:37:37 PM »
The Laidlaw bull was named Green Row Laidlaw. He was sired by Claydene Ever Reddy who was a Lincoln Red/ Shorthorn bull that was way ahead of his time. If Ever Reddy was alive today he would be very popular. Laidlaw was bred by Bert Pepper, in Ontario  who owned Green Row Shorthorns. He sold in Bert's production sale as a calf. I purchased about 20 head in that sale and I remember Laidlaw very well. I thought he was a very good bull and it was a toss up between him and another Ever Reddy son to which was the best calf. I decided to buy the other bull as I liked his dam better than Laidlaw's, but both bulls bred very well. I still have a few straws of Ever Reddy semen in my inventory. I have told my wife that if I die, she will have to book one day just to sell the semen I have accumulated over the years.
Experience is what you get when you don't have it when you need it.

Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and bad breath!
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity
If love is blind... why is lingerie so popular?
The only thing worse than an idiot ... is an educated idiot!

Offline wowcows

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 109
  • Karma 0
    • View Profile
Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2010, 08:10:35 AM »
It was good to meet you yesterday afternoon Elbee. Look forward to that herd tour. Have fun in D.C.

Offline E6 Durhams

  • County Champion Poster
  • *****
  • Posts: 2047
  • Karma 175
  • Brock Eagon 740-815-4145
    • View Profile
Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2010, 10:14:01 PM »
Lincoln Red bull.................  http://www.papanui.com.au/images/LincolnRedSydneyShow.jpg
Looks like a shorthorn IMO. Never even heard of those before. Thanks SP
Cleveland Browns...... super bowl champs 2019. Heard it here first. And charcuterie is the next hot food trend with the hipsters.

Offline HerefordGuy

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 442
  • Karma 11
    • View Profile
    • Decker Herefords
Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2010, 11:12:59 PM »
From what I have read and from DNA work, American Shorthorns and Lincoln Reds are both decendents of Durham Shorthorns.

Offline yuppiecowboy

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 341
  • Karma 43
    • View Profile
Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2010, 11:54:31 PM »
I had two daughters of Green rowlaidlaw in the early 80s.

 Lee, lets be honest, Ralphs cattle were wanting. The Gloriadale bull that your dad had was a specimen before his time.

My dad bought Gloriadale Count because Gloriadale Constructor (sons or grandsons of bapton constructor) were stuck in the wheat fields of kansas and couldnt come home and they wouldnt freeze.

 

Related Topics

  Subject / Started by Replies Last post
0 Replies
1262 Views
Last post December 11, 2008, 09:30:22 AM
by box6rranch
0 Replies
1436 Views
Last post December 11, 2008, 09:35:00 AM
by box6rranch
0 Replies
2415 Views
Last post January 11, 2009, 11:35:31 AM
by box6rranch
2 Replies
1613 Views
Last post January 25, 2009, 08:50:48 PM
by showstud
8 Replies
2927 Views
Last post September 04, 2010, 10:25:26 AM
by kamerkat

Powered by EzPortal