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Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2017, 09:32:33 PM »
3842639-GB Spiffy I would like to have seen this bull-Claydene Everready x a Lazy D HL Quane cow. Hes the sire of GB Daybreak Expresses  dam.Express was a bull ahead of his time JMO O0

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Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2017, 03:57:40 PM »
I believe it was part of a larger body of work that they were doing on multiple beef breeds.  I assume your copy is the same pdf file that I downloaded.  I knew of the study and had to do a google search to find it several years ago, but I don't think my copy came from the Lincoln Red newsletter.  I might have found it in a conference proceedings.

I have seen some of the Lincoln Red cows at Jim Murray's herd and a few in Dennis Hoffrogge's herd.  They definitely have something to offer in a breeding program.  They are a dark cherry red and many of them have lots of volume.  That's probably not a big enough sample size to make a bold statement, but I do have a half Lincoln Red daughter that I bought from Dennis, and I love her volume and rib shape.  She was crossed with a beautiful uddered Haumont cow, and her udder is darn near perfect too.  Unfortunately, she keeps having bull calves.

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Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2017, 11:05:44 PM »
I believe it was part of a larger body of work that they were doing on multiple beef breeds.  I assume your copy is the same pdf file that I downloaded.  I knew of the study and had to do a google search to find it several years ago, but I don't think my copy came from the Lincoln Red newsletter.  I might have found it in a conference proceedings.

I have seen some of the Lincoln Red cows at Jim Murray's herd and a few in Dennis Hoffrogge's herd.  They definitely have something to offer in a breeding program.  They are a dark cherry red and many of them have lots of volume.  That's probably not a big enough sample size to make a bold statement, but I do have a half Lincoln Red daughter that I bought from Dennis, and I love her volume and rib shape.  She was crossed with a beautiful uddered Haumont cow, and her udder is darn near perfect too.  Unfortunately, she keeps having bull calves./// Get a good bull calf and use him-That"s how cattle are proven useful JMO

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Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2018, 07:45:43 PM »
I'm still working on Galloway Shorthorn crosses. Thanks for the research help. I'm going to use this bull next year, x4253260. 50% Lincoln Red 50% Native, along with a real beefy Galloway Synthetic Minn Max son.
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Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2018, 12:51:52 AM »
There are crossbred cattle that are purer than non-asterick purebred Shorthorns. Now with dna technology the funny stuff will probably be curtailed.
People can't believe we have such a big moon for such a small town.

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Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2018, 02:06:41 AM »
Some commercial cattle, certainly, are genetically purer than some registered purebreds....but crossbred cattle are impure by definition. One may say a crossbreed individual is more true to purpose or type than a purebred individual...but that is just weighted recombination. Or, so I think. Improvement either comes from concentrating desired breed traits or by combining complementary breed traits. I just believe one can do both.
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Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2018, 09:05:36 PM »
I would consider using a Lincoln Red bull if he was not Shorthorn Plus status. I believe it would be a better deal than the Red aNGUS thing.

The Lincoln Reds I saw 30+ years ago at Pleasant Valley in Brandon Iowa were the real deal. They were just the wrong side of the road for the 70's-80's trend.

LR are better option when compare to red Aberdeen Angus. Easy fleshing, good weight gain very docile.
They never become dwarves, always kept a good size.

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Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2018, 09:06:41 PM »
Looks like Lincoln Reds are polled with a dark red color. I wasn't really aware of them. One thing about the Durham Reds is they have various shades of red. From orange to a darker red. I would think that orange would be less desirable. I think the Durham Reds need to be taken directly to the commercial people. They won't work in the showring.

Yes, they are deep red.
Horned or polled, mostly the cattle today are polled.
Polled with Aberdeen Angus infusion on 40's and 50's.

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Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2018, 09:09:40 PM »
From what I have read and from DNA work, American Shorthorns and Lincoln Reds are both decendents of Durham Shorthorns.

Lincoln Red were form from red Shorthorn from Booth line.
Used under big local cow from Lincolnshire. This cows had some dutch blood.
Of course all run on 1800.

 

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