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Biss element 79 what ever happened
« on: November 18, 2020, 11:42:56 AM »
What ever happened with the biss element calves did they pan out
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Re: Biss element 79 what ever happened
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2020, 03:49:09 PM »
His progeny had a lot of success down in Australia, though I personally haven't seen many in the US. Seems like another case of a bull who worked really well down there, but not so much up here. I could appreciate the bone and mass on the AussieXElement cattle, but in general I think they were a couple frames bigger than what is bringing good $$ in the US (as would be expected).
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Re: Biss element 79 what ever happened
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2020, 11:32:51 PM »
A grandaughter of BISS Element won an Interbreed show in Australia this year. This is her pic.
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Re: Biss element 79 what ever happened
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2020, 06:18:51 AM »
Quote from: Okotoks on November 20, 2020, 11:32:51 PM
A grandaughter of BISS Element won an Interbreed show in Australia this year. This is her pic.
Wow. You couldn't draw a prettier udder on one imo.
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Re: Biss element 79 what ever happened
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2020, 07:01:10 AM »
Quote from: Gargan on November 21, 2020, 06:18:51 AM
Quote from: Okotoks on November 20, 2020, 11:32:51 PM
A grandaughter of BISS Element won an Interbreed show in Australia this year. This is her pic.
Wow. You couldn't draw a prettier udder on one imo.
That was a cow that could work here in the US imo. Based on the pics I've seen, I think she's about a frame 5. And the Romance cow family at Nagol Park is one of their best.
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Re: Biss element 79 what ever happened
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2020, 01:19:51 PM »
Nice pair.
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Re: Biss element 79 what ever happened
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2020, 06:46:57 PM »
Quote from: Gargan on November 21, 2020, 06:18:51 AM
Quote from: Okotoks on November 20, 2020, 11:32:51 PM
A grandaughter of BISS Element won an Interbreed show in Australia this year. This is her pic.
Wow. You couldn't draw a prettier udder on one imo.
Gargan thats exactly the first thing that caught my attention...2 minutes before we sent them a message inquiring about purchasing embryos.  🤞🤞 for progeny on the ground in 14 months after
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Re: Biss element 79 what ever happened
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2020, 09:00:45 AM »
DU LIN FARM in Ohio used Element probably as much as anyone O0
« Last Edit: December 06, 2020, 04:55:58 PM by mark tenenbaum »
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Re: Biss element 79 what ever happened
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2020, 10:58:15 PM »
Bull was way too big to have much usefulness.  Saw him in Denver as a long yearling at over a ton. 
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Re: Biss element 79 what ever happened
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2020, 07:19:30 AM »
BWS  followed from what I have seen-Just ad Waco genetics or solution etc   O0
« Last Edit: December 03, 2020, 07:25:19 AM by mark tenenbaum »
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Re: Biss element 79 what ever happened
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2020, 09:30:43 AM »
There's probably not a lot of people who can even answer the question. The show ring was being pushed in a certain direction when he raised to the top and I don't believe he really fit the mold. The wrong prefix and semen price probably kept him from being used in all the herds that would have plastered calf pictures all over the internet for everyone to see.

I have two daughters I purchased for the bottom side of their pedigree. They milk well, have bred back first service, and raised nice calves with very good post wean gain out of two different types of bulls. When bred moderate Angus the steer calves still exploded in the lot. 1000 of their calves in the feedlot every year would make nearly any farmer/feeder good money right now.

I have no idea what they looked like as calves, but they are the type of cows that would carry a lot of today's bulls over the finish line.

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Re: Biss element 79 what ever happened
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2020, 10:51:39 AM »
Pictures available?
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Re: Biss element 79 what ever happened
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2020, 02:09:19 PM »
Nice to hear from someone who actually used the bull and has first hand experience. 
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Re: Biss element 79 what ever happened
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2020, 06:58:14 PM »
Somebody had a sale about two years ago with several Biss Element daughters pictured and with associated videos.  I can't remember who that was but this might provide a lead for  follow-up. 
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Re: Biss element 79 what ever happened
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2020, 10:02:24 PM »
Quote from: oakview on December 03, 2020, 02:09:19 PM
Nice to hear from someone who actually used the bull and has first hand experience.

Yea hes such a unique specimen that only by using him specifically could you infer anything about his type.  How long you been at this again?
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