World's full of good looking bulls that don't work and not so good looking bulls that work. I would prefer to hear about what works well in other folks' herds and why they like it instead of negative comments about something they haven't tried. I did not use Element, but that doesn't mean I don't want to hear from people that did. I'm sure you have used bulls that have worked in your herd. Tell us about them and why you like them instead of why you don't like a bull from the way he looks.