Black Bull X Black Cow = Coloured up Calf******* Updated photo and video*****
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cotullaguy
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Clark Club Calves said:
2 + 2 = 89
fullblood
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must be a good fullblood bull in there some where. sunseeker does throw some white. had a red calf for angus bull grizz /draftpick dam
vet tech
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sunseeker=color
Your cow carriers both the red gene and the NON solid patterned gene from the fullblood sire
Sunseeker carries red and NON solid patterned perhaps from Power Plant and unknown in his pedigree
Black is dominant - red recessive - to get a red calf both parents have to carry red - not unusual or unexpected, but with black parents who carry the red gene (heterozygous black) the risk or chance of a red calf is 25% with each mating
Nice calf
Sunseeker carries red and NON solid patterned perhaps from Power Plant and unknown in his pedigree
Black is dominant - red recessive - to get a red calf both parents have to carry red - not unusual or unexpected, but with black parents who carry the red gene (heterozygous black) the risk or chance of a red calf is 25% with each mating
Nice calf
afhm
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Atleast you got a live one that looks to be pretty good regardless of color.
forbes family farms
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Well Maine Anjou used to be red and white so there's your problem.
shortyjock89
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forbes family farms said:
Real Maines still are. Would you really call it a problem? Chromed up calves are pretty easy to sell around here, and if its a good one, its a good one!
mark tenenbaum
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Wuutta ya Mean? thats a Great looking caf! O0
mark tenenbaum
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THATS MY SUBSTITUTE FOR GRECIAN FORMULA O0The Show said:
Problem solved (lol)
Clark Club Calves
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We will have to see how he turns out. I don't mind something different. There is nothing like a steer with some chrome in a class of all black steers. It was just not what I was expecting. In our experience with the market that we sell into (Canada) it takes a pretty good red and white calf to out sell the black ones. Maybe some 4-H er will see him and fall in love If he doesn't turn out to be a show steer he will still press down hard on the scale in the fall. He is growing like a weed.
Dyer Show cattle
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vet tech said:
100% not true at my farm. Had over 20 sunseekers in the past 3 years at my place or neighbor I AI for. We have bred sunseeker to cross bred cows angus, maine, shorthorn x, simm, and charl. 99 % have been solid colored, 2 solid smokes, and 2 solid reds. Some of the blacks have a redish/brown tint to them. But out of all the calves they have mostly been solid black except 2 smokes out of a high percentage if not purebred charl. cow and also 1 black with white on the navel out of a blue roan cow, and 2 reds out of black maine cows. Most all of the cows are solid colored black or white or black white face, but even the black simm cows with white on them have had black calves.
I would say your red and white is coming more from your cow on this one. I still have seen maines with red 4 generations back throw red calves out of black purebred angus bulls. Just like a Smoke cow I have, the white is 3 generations back and she is out of a purebred angus bull.
Dyer - spotting is believed to be inherited as a recessive trait - looks like you "got lucky"
http://homepage.usask.ca/~schmutz/CowPatterns.html#Spotted
Spotting is a common pattern in several cattle breeds, including Holstein and Simmental cattle. The Simmentals pictured above also all have whiteface in addition to spots on the body. White spots against a colored body are of different sizes, shapes, and placement, seemingly at random. Recently the amount of spotting on Holsteins has also been attributed to a gene a cattle chromosome 6 near KIT (the same gene as in Hereford whiteface). This random spotting, not including the face is thought to be inherited as a recessive trait.
http://homepage.usask.ca/~schmutz/CowPatterns.html#Spotted
Spotting is a common pattern in several cattle breeds, including Holstein and Simmental cattle. The Simmentals pictured above also all have whiteface in addition to spots on the body. White spots against a colored body are of different sizes, shapes, and placement, seemingly at random. Recently the amount of spotting on Holsteins has also been attributed to a gene a cattle chromosome 6 near KIT (the same gene as in Hereford whiteface). This random spotting, not including the face is thought to be inherited as a recessive trait.
lowann
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Genetics, genetics. You just never know for sure. ???
