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Offline Angusboy

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« on: December 28, 2012, 02:44:48 PM »
I've heard of the bull Broker and see that he is winning almost all of the bull shows. Also that he sired a $190,000 heifer at Hartmans, has anyone used him? If you have how are the calves looking?
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2012, 03:04:04 PM »
I've seen him in person. He is a very complete bull IMO. It'll be fun to see if he can pull off the triple crown by winning the NWSS. I have seen quite a few heifer calves out of him and they all are above average IMO. If he wins Denver I suspect semen could go allot higher than it is right now. He is selling for $125/unit with a minimum of 10 units required.

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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2013, 07:11:22 PM »
I agree.  Those who have semen on him are using it wisely and also watching with anticipation what he does in Denver.  Fingers crossed I'm going to breed a group of Simmental and SimAngus first calf heifers to him in about a month.

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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2013, 07:41:04 PM »
I saw him in L'ville and loved him. Flushing a cow to him.

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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2013, 07:55:52 PM »
The question is, How much did they really pay for the 190,000 heifer? Last Year there was a bull that was already purchased for 25k. A real good friend of mine was one of the ones who bought interest. They ran him through an auction and he sold for 40k. he really only sold for 25k. its a you scratch ,my back, I scratch yours. I also know of a 20k+ heifer that only sold for 5k or 6k+ but made good publicity for the bull.  I would venture to guess the heifer truly didnt sell for 190,000. JMO

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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2013, 08:02:45 PM »
The question is, How much did they really pay for the 190,000 heifer? Last Year there was a bull that was already purchased for 25k. A real good friend of mine was one of the ones who bought interest. They ran him through an auction and he sold for 40k. he really only sold for 25k. its a you scratch ,my back, I scratch yours. I also know of a 20k+ heifer that only sold for 5k or 6k+ but made good publicity for the bull.  I would venture to guess the heifer truly didnt sell for 190,000. JMO

As a Simmental breeder I'd love to hope it was real money but I don't know I've ever seen one that went even into the teens where there wasn't some agreement established prior to that animal entering the sale ring.  Not saying it's a great thing but it sure happens.

I'm surprised there hasn't been pictures and threads on that heifer selling.


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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2013, 08:11:05 PM »
There have been. She won her first show.

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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2013, 09:58:41 AM »


As a Simmental breeder I'd love to hope it was real money but I don't know I've ever seen one that went even into the teens where there wasn't some agreement established prior to that animal entering the sale ring.  Not saying it's a great thing but it sure happens.

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Are you kidding me? You have never seen real money on one that's sold for over 10k? What sales have you been going to?

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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2013, 11:53:31 AM »
a good friend of mine was at the sale,,,he said he thought it was real money ,,he watched two guys get in a pissing match over her,,said it was the first time he saw one sell that high he thought was legit..........                                                              as far as broker calves we had a couple and love them

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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2013, 04:40:56 PM »
a good friend of mine was at the sale,,,he said he thought it was real money ,,he watched two guys get in a pissing match over her,,said it was the first time he saw one sell that high he thought was legit..........                                                              as far as broker calves we had a couple and love them

Hope it was.  That would be awesome in a lot of ways.  I have seen lots of cattle sell for big money.  I have seen lots sell for "real" big money, but I have seen a lot sell for big Monopoly money too.

In my opinion when they get that high you have to at least scratch your head on it.  Regardless, the bull is awesome.  I have a group of cows we are using him on soon.  We will see what happens.

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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2013, 05:31:09 PM »
I know the two bidders who were on her and who sold her. Although I am always extremely hesitant to say "it was real" I feel like if was. But there are TONS of cattle that sell for 10k+++ that is legit....

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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2013, 11:13:39 PM »
I know the two bidders who were on her and who sold her. Although I am always extremely hesitant to say "it was real" I feel like if was. But there are TONS of cattle that sell for 10k+++ that is legit....

I wasn't saying they aren't real money, however in my experience on big money cattle their is some discussion prior to the sale and some agreement in place as to what happens after the sale.  It's not just about someone writing a check.  Again I'm thrilled for the Hartman crew and everyone involved on this great female and on the bull as well.  I think bigger things are coming for him.

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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2013, 06:23:38 AM »
I know the two bidders who were on her and who sold her. Although I am always extremely hesitant to say "it was real" I feel like if was. But there are TONS of cattle that sell for 10k+++ that is legit....

I wasn't saying they aren't real money, however in my experience on big money cattle their is some discussion prior to the sale and some agreement in place as to what happens after the sale.  It's not just about someone writing a check.  Again I'm thrilled for the Hartman crew and everyone involved on this great female and on the bull as well.  I think bigger things are coming for him.
Oh I know I wasn't trying to say you were being pessimistic or anything at all. I was just adding what info I knew.

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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2013, 08:25:18 AM »
No problem at all, I appreciate the info!

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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2013, 08:05:18 AM »
Does anyone know if broker has scurs I would assume he doesn't but it looks like in his photos he does?

 

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