Bull calf to pick on
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Aussie
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mark tenenbaum
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Great looking cow-want to Breed her to Indian Outlaw-the bull looks too bunched up in his neckhow he changes depends upon his age O0
Aussie
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OK Mark I knew you would come up with something. You get the semen over here and I will give it a go ;D
mark tenenbaum
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If the ancient sultans could ai without freezing (purportedly the historical basis for the song Ahab the Aaaarab by one Ray Stevens) then somehow well sneak it ti you-that is one coool angus cow-when i get well-Id try and get embryos from down there-and ruin the chaste purity of your breeding with some outcross genetics. O0 <beer>
Telos
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He may be bunched up in the neck but that is strictly an American type of thinking. Those Aussie's don't care about what the neck looks like. Probably they would not like him if he was goose fronted. Very doable type of calf IMO.
Aussie
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Thanks Telos. He does have better neck extention bad photo. The pair will be shown early Oct. Why show a pair? because over here 9 times out of 10 a pair will beat a hfr.
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Telos said:
He has a masculine look to him, not necessarily all that bunched IMO..... Balanced, deep, and soft. Looks to sire moderate framed, easy fleshing type of cattle.... From the commercial cattlewoman's standpoint, I'd give you an (thumbsup) on that calf.
Aussie
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mark tenenbaum
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Much better-reminds me of the Canadian cattle -alot easier doing and rugged looking than some of the purebreds I see. There again-I like shorthorns-maines and x breds-where do they hide the club calves in Australia O0
Aussie
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Mark and everyone else. As far as I know the club calf scene is not existent. All our str comps are hoof and hook. Large comps with some xbreds but all strs are killed and am not sure some of the " fluff balls "you guys show would cut it. Also because of this setup there is not the money in producing show strs there is in the states. I am trying to set up a lead circut in our state and have wanted to get some club calf semen and the closest I came was some Sheriff Taylor so nothing happening. Xbred cattle as in "American Cows " have little or no acceptance here. very commercial.
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DITTO. (thumbsup)DiamondS said:
mark tenenbaum
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What about crossing different breeds for hybrid vigor? Also-some of the weaning and yearling wts here and in Canada are still pretty good-Ive used Australian genetics (alot of the Australian shorthorns go back to some Us breeding) and the growth curves seemed to be similar.In fact-in 1991 Byland Explosian was shipped on a plane down underI bought his dam and had her for years.-His maternal sister( born in 01 when explosians dam was 15) is pictured on range grass page two-big show-Free for all hiefer-etc. The hiefer is 4 months old-and probably wieghs 500 pounds or close-no creep-and the cow is a little drawn down from normal. The conditions in Kansas -Oklahoma and Texas arent necessarily an airconditioned country club.and some of the club calves are thicker and a little smaller framed than the long legged cattle.-Its a matter of economics to some people-in terms of efficiency of the cow.The larger ones dont fare as well,in that environment. The fitting-and hair etc-is as much hard work as anything else.Anybody can have some steers on a self feeder-or feed them twice a day.
Aussie said:
Better pic, but still a very nice functional calf. I'd sure like to see his progress! I am assuming without looking it up that Right Way was out of Right Time 338. Is that correct?? If so, the 338's are some of my alltime favorite cows.....
Aussie
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Right Way is a 338 son and IMO has a touch more frame and better temperament I have found 338's a bit stirry. If you have seen some of my posts I like a bit of frame. But frame with thickness. 
Mark I am not saying growing hair and all that goes with it is not hard work I know it is but here only for stud.There is not the big market for show strs to warrent cool rooms and 3 x a day rinsing. We just do not have dads with bulging wallets wanting that 6 month old str. I wish we did I would love to help them out.
This were much of our beef goes http://www.greenhamnaturalbeef.com.au/ or here http://www.capegrimbeef.com.au/ the first cattle you see are South Devon and angusx.This farmer runs about 330 cows and buys his black bulls from me
Mark I am not saying growing hair and all that goes with it is not hard work I know it is but here only for stud.There is not the big market for show strs to warrent cool rooms and 3 x a day rinsing. We just do not have dads with bulging wallets wanting that 6 month old str. I wish we did I would love to help them out. This were much of our beef goes http://www.greenhamnaturalbeef.com.au/ or here http://www.capegrimbeef.com.au/ the first cattle you see are South Devon and angusx.This farmer runs about 330 cows and buys his black bulls from me
mark tenenbaum
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Aussie said:Right Way is a 338 son and IMO has a touch more frame and better temperament I have found 338's a bit stirry. If you have seen some of my posts I like a bit of frame. But frame with thickness.
Aussie
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Definately no Galloway its winter over here : and if you look on the map as to were I live it rains a lot here natural rinsing.
and if you look on the map as to were I live it rains a lot here natural rinsing.mark tenenbaum
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Aussie said:Definately no Galloway its winter over here :
I liked my 338's. I didn't have any disposition problems, but that's not the first time I'd heard that about them. They had beautiful udders and were very easy fleshing... When your footing the feed bill on 1,000 hd, easy fleshing cows with a little smaller frame is a bonus!!!
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Aussie said:
I want to see some dry hill photos, with no creep/assistance before you pick a fight with the commercials. We have a commercial raising two 5 month olds that both weigh around 500#'s. No supplemental assistance whatsoever. This is just a typical steer, not even a big one and he is around 6 months out of an angus bull and a simmy angus x. We have weaned 7 month olds at 900 lbs before, without assistance. The solid black is 5 months old. The bottom photos are out of a gelbvieh x bull. weaning averages were around 750, yw's were 950-1000.
