Charolais bulls

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Which bull would be better

  • Firewater

    Votes: 10 50.0%
  • Doc Sliver

    Votes: 2 10.0%
  • Oakdale Duke 9003p

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • Montezuma

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • Bluegrass

    Votes: 6 30.0%

  • Total voters
    20
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SRC

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HFChars, who's the Canadian bull you picked up rights on?
 

sjc

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Dont know for sure, but the bull I think HF is talking about is on the Charolais Banner website. He was a Sanchez son. I was at the sale he sold at - solid calf. Could have been a frame score taller for my liking but wide, flat topped, good footed, lots of nuts. He sold for $30,000 or something. He was the only bull I saw sell to the US this year. Good sale lots of good calves there. Got my bull from the sale today!
 

HF CHARS

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Sorry been away a couple days guys
The Bull I purchased the American rights on is Merrit Crossroads, first calves are on the ground in canada. Dennis Serhienko says he is the only candian bull that he has used that would clean up the front end on an american cow.  He is moderate, stout, and full of hair.
The sanchez bull you talked about, is Diablo, I didn't purchase him , but a friend of mine did.  Not sure how they will market him
 

Mark H

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HF,

Does Dennis or Martens have any Crossroads Merit calves on the ground where we can evaluate their fronts?  I am asking because he is a 2009 edition bull.
 

ds

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Between Martens and ourselves there is just under 20 calves. He really stamps them with very nice front ends and seems to put a great hip in them.
 

HF CHARS

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Mark H said:
HF,

Does Dennis or Martens have any Crossroads Merit calves on the ground where we can evaluate their fronts?  I am asking because he is a 2009 edition bull.
Just noticed your questions was answered.  Not sure he is the bull for everyone, might be a bit clubby for some guys, but Really the kind of bull I think can make a huge impact in the states, We need more bone and performance in our cattle, IMO I am really excited to get these crossroads calves on the ground down here, just put some eggs sired by him in yesterday
 

Mark H

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HF,

When you talk about needing more bone, muscle, and performance are you talking about the Charolais breed or the cattle population in genera?
 

HF CHARS

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Mark H said:
HF,

When you talk about needing more bone, muscle, and performance are you talking about the Charolais breed or the cattle population in genera?
Talking about the charolais breed.  Some cattle are getting a little to angus looking.  Not that angus cattle are bad, Just don't think we need to make all breeds like them.
 

Mark H

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HF,

Then how do you feel about using a Full French bull? You certainly will never mistake one of these bulls in the French catalog for any Angus: http://www.genesdiffusion.com/Charolais/Catalogue-Charolais-Optimal.aspx.  The big problem is finding the bulls that work in North America.  The best of the recent semen imports was Impair when he was available he was $ 100 plus a straw.  You will get heavier bone and more muscle but also more birth weight and calving problems these traits add.  This is why any bulls brought over tend to be of the easier calving or "spread" type.
 
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