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Re: Clubby bulls for Plain old commercial cows
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2019, 05:55:01 PM »
My picks would be I-80, Here I Am, No Worries and Huff N Puff.
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Re: Clubby bulls for Plain old commercial cows
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2019, 06:55:46 PM »
I would suggest some proven embryo matings.The better the cow the better the calf. I have a nice set of basically maternal bred females that wean heavy calves. I have rented a top bull from Phil Lautner for over ten years and have had bulls such as MAB clone,Heatwave clone,Jackpot, Dakota Gold clone and Milkman for 3 years.Havent had one cripple and each year have sold several calves of witch one of the top ones pays the lease.They love the colored up ones to show but not at the salebarn

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Re: Clubby bulls for Plain old commercial cows
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2019, 07:00:12 PM »
I would go Here I Am or Huff N Puff

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Re: Clubby bulls for Plain old commercial cows
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2019, 10:45:25 AM »
Thanks for the replies. I was leaning towards I 80 and here I am. And probably huff and puff for my charlois to try for a smoke colored one. Just helps knowing others like those bulls also. At this point not going the embryo route just because we are new to it. One step at a time. Thanks again.
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Re: Clubby bulls for Plain old commercial cows
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2019, 11:29:26 AM »
Thanks for the replies. I was leaning towards I 80 and here I am. And probably huff and puff for my charlois to try for a smoke colored one. Just helps knowing others like those bulls also. At this point not going the embryo route just because we are new to it. One step at a time. Thanks again.

I-80 is certainly a great bull...but not much power there.  He is a first calf heifer safe type of bull, so don't be surprised if they don't have much to them.

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Re: Clubby bulls for Plain old commercial cows
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2019, 11:36:01 AM »
A high % of the steers that win have Heatwave or his son Monopoly influence.A lot of people thought they wouldn't make  good cows but if the mother was maternal enough there are many excellent cows that are working.Many South Dakota herds are stacked with club calf sired females and sell the calves real well.

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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2019, 02:19:18 PM »
I had heard that I 80 is heifer safe but wasnt sure. I would say if i could only fix one thing on my commercial cows i would say put morr strength and width thoughout there front ends so maybe he isn't the bull for the job.

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Re: Clubby bulls for Plain old commercial cows
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2019, 03:22:06 PM »
I had heard that I 80 is heifer safe but wasnt sure. I would say if i could only fix one thing on my commercial cows i would say put morr strength and width thoughout there front ends so maybe he isn't the bull for the job.

Ya, honestly I had hoped you would come to that conclusion.  He isn't the right bull.

Here I Am is no doubt the bull I would choose.  He will stouten them up, and throw big time hair.

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« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2019, 04:43:10 PM »
Sounds good. That's why I threw the question out there. I just learning beef business..was a dairy guy and now have my parents place and have a few beef to keep the pastures chewed down and now my boy getting into the beef shows with 4h so time to start learning... thanks

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Re: Clubby bulls for Plain old commercial cows
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2019, 03:29:27 PM »
Who Made Who always worked on our plainer cows.  He is really consistent and his daughters were in really high demand for steer mama's not to long ago.

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Re: Clubby bulls for Plain old commercial cows
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2019, 09:08:13 AM »
I have some semen in my tank and going to breed some commercial black angus cows to get a show steer for my son at county fair level. Terminal calves not replacement heifers. Biggest thing to improve on the cows I am breeding is they need more strength and power in front end. Out of these bulls who would you use...All in one, huff and puff, Harlem shake, the creature, I deliver, no worries, I da man. I know it is a broad question but any advise would be great. Those are the bulls I have in the tank. Thank you
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Re: Clubby bulls for Plain old commercial cows
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2019, 06:48:58 PM »
All OF THEM O0

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Re: Clubby bulls for Plain old commercial cows
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2019, 08:10:31 PM »
I'd have to agree with Mark, but we have had really good luck using Maternal Perfection on plainer made cows.  He adds a lot of power and puts a great chest floor on them without making them puds, that's kind of what the Whiskey's are known for and they make surprisingly good steers too.  Just have to be careful since he's PHAC.  If you use I-80 make sure they are sound coming off their back wheels, on the right cow they're pretty good.
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