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« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2011, 04:44:02 PM »
to the show, I bet Ft.Worth helped you get over it in a hurry. We were never in it big enough for politics to get in our way, we got beat by better calves, and when we won we had a better calf. (not to say there weren't any politics, just when you're standing in 4 out of 20 the 1, 2, 3, calves got lined up by politics more than the rest of the calves) we may have placed higher a time or 2 just so they could bury one, but never felt like we got cheated.

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« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2011, 05:15:37 PM »
I did ask the judge and he said the heifer was not a pure breed. The funny part is he used the calf last year at the same show as res. champ..... Yes the judge has an opinion but stupid ones should be kept to themselves.

once again, you are telling yourself what to do.  why don't you just have your own show?
You can kiss it. OH  I forgot you must be an cattle  EXPERT.

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« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2011, 05:19:07 PM »
Yall dont get it. I dont mind getting beat by a better calf. We won our class. One of our other calves in the drive won Res. IM JUST SAYING THAT SOME OF THESE JUDGES SHOULD THINK BEFORE THEY SPEEK. JUST LIKE SOME OF YOU PEOPLE.

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« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2011, 07:07:27 PM »
The judge was paid to speak, obviously someone valued his opinion, when was the last time someone paid for yours, that would make you a cattle expert like OH.

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« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2011, 07:19:52 PM »
Yall dont get it. I dont mind getting beat by a better calf. We won our class. One of our other calves in the drive won Res. IM JUST SAYING THAT SOME OF THESE JUDGES SHOULD THINK BEFORE THEY SPEEK. JUST LIKE SOME OF YOU PEOPLE.

you keep giving yourself advice you refuse to accept.  no one is perfect.  sometimes phrases or default slogans get used too much by judges.  to characterize them by the exception rather than their overall body of work and without them here to defend themselves which they wouldn't bother with anyway, is not really fair.

there are lots of people who refuse to visit or participate on these sites just because of what you are saying.  there really isn't a return on their investment of time to bother with the number of complaints that would arise from every show.  responding to all the complaints would take longer than the show itself.  who would pay for that?

get your judge card and start judging shows, generate some complaints and see how you deal with it.  probably no different i expect than the person you are complaining about.

you already took your judging reasons down from your first post which you should be standing by.

as for being an expert, can you please list the criteria for that?  all too often, we are eager to take the money from non-experts and laugh at them behind their back for paying too much, not showing the calf etc, but is exactly these dollars that drive the show industry.  realistically, if you take out the fake profit for show cattle, we probably couldn't fool as many people to participate and profit from them as we do.
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« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2011, 07:56:08 PM »
to the show, I bet Ft.Worth helped you get over it in a hurry. We were never in it big enough for politics to get in our way, we got beat by better calves, and when we won we had a better calf. (not to say there weren't any politics, just when you're standing in 4 out of 20 the 1, 2, 3, calves got lined up by politics more than the rest of the calves) we may have placed higher a time or 2 just so they could bury one, but never felt like we got cheated.


Oh you bet! I really wasn't either. Honestly it was the last place I thought I'd ever get beat because of politics lol

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« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2011, 10:55:23 PM »
with all due respect, I would suggest that some day you will look back at this judge's comments and think they were not quite as bad as you presently think they are. I would suggest there will be days where judges say much worse.... A whole lot worse!!  There will be days when you will see animals you think are not even in the same ball park as your's standing above you in line. I truly hope you are not showing your anger and frustration about the judge to your daughter, For her sake! Like I said, I consider what the judge said to be well within his right to do. He was selected to evaluate the classes and it is also his responsibility to evaluate them on all conformation traits as well as things like breed character. You may have to grow a much thicker skin or you are going to find that you are angry after many shows and quite frankly, that is a horrible way to live. Cattle shows are supposed to be fun for young people and they teach many life lessons, one of which is that sometimes you don't do as well as you expected you would  and sometimes what happens to you is not fair.
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« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2011, 11:00:53 PM »
Thanks for your opinions and coments most of them sounded like some of these judges....not worth a ****....As for your advice knab its worthless as you are.

For the others I comend you....

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« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2011, 11:02:29 PM »
Thanks for your opinions and coments most of them sounded like some of these judges....not worth a ****....As for your advice knab its worthless as you are.

For the others I comend you....

NO she has no idea of any of this... I just got on here to blow off steam.

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« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2011, 11:19:35 PM »
As for your advice knab its worthless as you are.

your continued ad hominem attacks are worth about -68.  are you 6807 - the 07?

sad how you can't see the exact thing in yourself you are criticizing others for.

care to compare worth?  what is your criteria, just more ad hominem attacks?  in that case, you win.
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« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2011, 11:23:38 PM »
WORDS OF WISDOM..... FROM THE LAND OF FRUITS AND NUTS. PROOFS IN THE PUDDING

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« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2011, 11:36:53 AM »
NO she has no idea of any of this... I just got on here to blow off steam.

did it work?  are you teaching your daughter to use that method?
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« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2011, 04:02:44 PM »
68.... I'm not getting this. Every judge is entitled to their opinion. Take their opinion for granted and move on. Don't continue beating a dead horse, trying to get what you want, the damn horse is dead. As an adult you should nice this by now, not everything goes your way. Teach your children this very important lesson in life. Stop stomping your feet, throwing fits. Your kids will thank you later on, it's embarrassing to have such a poor sport for a parent!

 

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