Ford Ecoboost
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knabe
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how much is that sucker? 60K?
oakview said:
Just get ready for the emission system maintenance fees on the Cummins. I think I wind up paying about $1500 once a year to get the thing cleaned out. Mine runs great, but recently had to replace a injector for about $2500 at about 175k miles. Hope the other ones don't go before I get rid of it.
RyanChandler
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knabe said:
Low 60's. Every truck we've talked about on her has been at least low 50's.
You can get the single axil for high 50's. What's crazy is that the comparable half ton isn't even 5k less.
knabe
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-XBAR- said:
now wonder they love the chicken tax. competition is so annoying. i guess it has always seemed odd that ever since the silverado debuted, rattling pickups with excessive amenities and high expense to replace bumpers and body panels seems like a good way to make money and save the environment. might make the engine/transmission/rear-end/cab top and other stuff easier to replace as well. oh well.
http://wot.motortrend.com/1312_volkswagen_u_s_ceo_amarok_could_come_here_if_chicken_tax_goes_away.html
DLD
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Most Ecoboosts out there aren't equipped for the 11K+ tow ratings that are advertised. To get that you need the max payload and max tow packages which upgrades to heavier duty suspension, cooling, wheels and tires, towing mirrors, even the integrated trailer brake controller. It still won't replace a one ton or heavy three quarter ton (if you actually needed that in the first place), but it seems to be a pretty good alternative for someone who needs a daily driver that is capable of towing moderate loads occasionally. By the way, you can get the max payload and max tow packages with the 5.0 V8 also, but it's still not rated to tow as much as the Ecoboost because the 5.0's torque numbers are much lower. We looked hard at the Fords but ended up with a 5.3L Chevy crew cab for a family car/wife's daily driver that can pull a trailer if it needs to. We have 20' aluminum and 16' steel goosenecks, and have hauled up to 6K of cattle in either trailer and gotten along fine with it. I really wanted to try the Ecoboost but at the time the Chevy was too much better of a deal to pass up.
That said, I'm with Chambero - my diesel will be replaced with a three quarter or one ton gas truck next time. I know tons of people running diesel pickups, and very few of them with any brand can honestly say that their trucks don't regularly need some sort of expensive repair (even if paid for under warranty). If driving a diesel is worth that to you, that's great, but I'm ready to try something different.
That said, I'm with Chambero - my diesel will be replaced with a three quarter or one ton gas truck next time. I know tons of people running diesel pickups, and very few of them with any brand can honestly say that their trucks don't regularly need some sort of expensive repair (even if paid for under warranty). If driving a diesel is worth that to you, that's great, but I'm ready to try something different.
for any of you thinking about going to a gas 1or 3/4 ton I will say the fuel mileage is terrible, I got a 6 litre gm gas in a 2500 hd and it only gets about 8 mile per gallon not pulling anything and about 9 mile per gallon pulling a 16 foot steel trailer loaded with cows and calves. I know the diesels are more to buy and fix but this will be my last gas truck without question.
Delete the EGR on any car or truck and you won't pass any emissions test- even the simple diesel test were thye just check readiness and look for fault codes. Something else to keep in mind is that if delet the EGR you will need block off plates and a custom software flash to make the engine run right. At low trottle you are mostly running on recitculated exhaust gas not air so removing the EGR is a big deal. Something else to consider is that the particulate filter must be cleaned eventually. Companies are already springing up to clean these filters. New filters are $$$. DI engines are soon going to get particulate filters as well since they produce more soot that old fuel injected engines.
I notice that there are differing opinions on truck makes, models, engines, etc. It seems that many of you want a pickup that gets excellent fuel economy since you drive it every day, yet want power to pull a trailer when you need it. It won't be for everybody, but that's why we have a Prius and a big pickup. I can't see driving a 1/2 ton pickup of any brand for every day driving, especially when you're lucky to get 17 miles/gallon. On the other hand, I pulled a trailer with a heavy half for too many years. For my money, I'll take the 50 miles/gallon Prius for every day driving and the diesel for pulling the trailer when I need to. I know this won't be for everybody, but I'd compare it to tractors. I don't want to use my big tractor to mow hay, but I can't use a 706 to pull a 35 foot field cultivator, either. Vehicles, tractors, cattle. It's hard to find one that excels for every purpose.
We just drive old paid for vehicles. 1997 F350 crew cab powerstroke gets the pulling done, Chevy Colorado for daily driver and early 2000s Toyota 4runner for family car. Cheap to insure and well maintained. Only payment is on aluminum stock trailer. If the ford dies I might have to just get an old freightliner single axle crew cab for a pulling rig. Should be enough truck that way.
nate53
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Agree! One could find a good reliable single axle semi for $7 - 10,000 (some a lot cheaper). My neighbor has one with a hitch on it for gooseneck, he hauls hay, cows, whatever with it. But if you go out of state very far you would have to meet DOT requirements or ur sposed to anyway.GoWyo said:
Only downside is you would need something else to check on cows and other stuff with.
nate53 said:Agree! One could find a good reliable single axle semi for $7 - 10,000 (some a lot cheaper). My neighbor has one with a hitch on it for gooseneck, he hauls hay, cows, whatever with it. But if you go out of state very far you would have to meet DOT requirements or ur sposed to anyway.GoWyo said:
That's what we did about four years ago. Engine went out of the dually and it was cheaper to buy a truck. Found a 2000 single axle Sterling for $7000. About what putting an engine in would have cost but have a lot more power and braking. Believe it or not it does better on fuel as well. DOT is a pain but here in Co. they tell me if you have a one ton you are supposed to have a DOT number as well. We don't haul as much or as far as we used to so this has worked well for us. If we still had kids showing we probably wouldn't have went this direction. Bad thing is not everybody knows how to drive a semi so can't send the wife to haul cows anymore.
RyanChandler
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It's a testament to the strength of our economy
RyanChandler
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3%s a used car rate. If it was an imported product, the devaluation theory could hold true.
If I ever come to my senses (or act my age, depending upon how you look at it) and get down to 10 cows, I would dump the big pickup and trailer for smaller ones. I may take some heat for saying this, but the only smaller pickup I would buy would be a Toyota. We've had nothing but Toyota cars for over 40 years and I will never buy another brand. I can picture myself driving down the road in a Toyota pickup pulling a 12 foot trailer with 2 calves in it with an ice cold glass bottle of Coke listening to the Cardinals or Packers game on the radio.
oakview said:
;D
Here's your trailer to go with your Toyota Hilux.
http://www.batesontrailers.com/product/horse-trailers/derby-lightweight-horse-pony/
knabe
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-XBAR- said:
6 year loans might have something to do with it.
might be testament to the distortion within our economy.
knabe
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-XBAR- said:
lack of competition leads to overvaluation. just ask debeers.
