Help - Are there any companies in Oklahoma that specializes in repo cattle back?

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Dooling1

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Or if you have any ideas of how to pick up stolen cattle, that would be a great help.
 

chiangus

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Stolen as sold, picked up, but never paid.  Did you have any kind of agreement in place.
 

Dooling1

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Stolen as never sent a check on one, and took a few others to resell and never sold. A gentleman's agreement, but we still have all the reg. papers on the animals.

chiangus said:
Stolen as sold, picked up, but never paid.  Did you have any kind of agreement in place.
 

knabe

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states vary as to what a hostile act is.

for instance, someone could put a 10 cents lock on their gate, and you break it, it could be considered a hostile act.

get prepared.  these deals protect those in possession of the cattle and lawyers.

never let someone go without a check.  a bad check and they can be arrested.

the days are over of gentlemens agreements.  there are too many people who use that to take advantage of you and they cry fowl, you are ruining their family because you won't loan them money cattle whatever and you have the audacity to expect to be paid back or return what you sold them if they can't pay for it.  get ready for a sob story or someone pissed, usually both.  remember, they think it's your fault you put them in this predicament.

this is happening more and more as people who do this on a small scale are starting to do it on a large scale as the economy tightens and they can't stop being dishonest.  they don't tell you they expect you to carry them till they can rob peter to pay paul.  get ready for lots of excuses.

i'm thinking we should set up some sort of SP contract for people that goes something like

party A agrees to pay to party B

only a check is acceptable means of payment

if party A check bounces, Party B agrees animals can be picked up.

No brand can be put on the cattle until payment.

one needs tattoos etc.

it's time to put the squeeze on these people.  they have made things difficult for the people they have screwed.  it's time to make their names known when appropriate to do so, like filing of bankruptcy, decisions in court, accidents, any public knowledge documents without getting into a he said she said argument.

these people know they have the upper hand with delay tactics abusing the gentlemen's agreement.  it's pretty clear they are not gentlemen.



 

rmbcows

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I'm assuming you live in OK and hopefully the calves are still in OK. Have you asked for the calves back?  If they refused,  I'd start by cotacting your local sheriff.  I'm sure you'll get the standard, there's nothing I can do speech, but at least you tried.  Then I'd contact the oklahoma cattlemen's association.  They have agents that it's their job to investigate stolen property, and from the cases I know about, they don't give up easily.  You said you have papers... are the calves tatooed?  Do you own the mothers, so dna could be pulled?  I wouldn't waste any time on this.  Once they figure out your after the calves, they will probably disappear.  Good luck. 
 
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