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Hereford Breeders!
« on: February 22, 2012, 06:27:32 PM »
Yes, even though I am a Simmgal I do have some Herefords that I A.I. to try and get show calves out of! I have been looking at some bulls to try and add some belly and butt to my hereford cows. I am not as familiar with herefords as I am with Simmis, so I need a little help! Which of these bulls would you recommend for getting a showy hereford calf? Has anyone seen calves out of any of these? Thanks!  (thumbsup)

Tundra: http://bullbarn.com/herfepd.asp?ID=130

Thor: http://universalsemensales.com/detail_hereford.php?hereford_id=33

Durango: http://www.reedent.com/reedent/cattle/tbulls/thm4037.html

Stocker: http://bullbarn.com/herfepd.asp?ID=143

I already have Purple Currency, Bogart, Hard Drive and my cows are currently bred to P606. Any of these stand out?

Currency: http://www.reedent.com/reedent/cattle/pbulls/purple24u.html

Bogart: http://www.reedent.com/reedent/cattle/sbulls/star5l.html

Hard Drive: http://www.reedent.com/reedent/cattle/dbulls/dbet.html

P606: http://www.reedent.com/reedent/cattle/pbulls/pwp606.html
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Re: Hereford Breeders!
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2012, 06:54:28 PM »
H/T Crossfire.. hands down, IMB..\

I plan to buy a Herf this year--- and he'll be my lead AI bull...

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Re: Hereford Breeders!
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2012, 07:11:00 PM »
H/T Crossfire.. hands down, IMB..\

I plan to buy a Herf this year--- and he'll be my lead AI bull...


This guy? http://www.cattlevisions.com/Hereford/HT_Crossfire.php I'm guessing he's had some pretty good calves for you to be recommending him!  ;D

The last Hereford bull we had tore thorugh the fence, had crappy calves and was just a general pain in the butt... So now the only male Herefords that live in my barn are stored in my semen tank! Where are you thinking about purchasing one from?
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Re: Hereford Breeders!
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2012, 07:16:28 PM »
H/T Crossfire.. hands down, IMB..\

I plan to buy a Herf this year--- and he'll be my lead AI bull...


This guy? http://www.cattlevisions.com/Hereford/HT_Crossfire.php I'm guessing he's had some pretty good calves for you to be recommending him!  ;D

The last Hereford bull we had tore thorugh the fence, had crappy calves and was just a general pain in the butt... So now the only male Herefords that live in my barn are stored in my semen tank! Where are you thinking about purchasing one from?


yes that is him.. had a southerner point me towards him...  Big believer- I like the way that bull looks- like what I've seen from the Summit cattle-- and have thought about using Crossfire's sire for a couple years on some black cows...  I just have that feeling about this one..

Who purchase from_ depends who has one cheap, and better than average..  have an idea of a old SP'er in northern IN- and have a friend who's a herf deluxe sending me to some people in N IL>

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Re: Hereford Breeders!
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2012, 07:20:52 PM »
hard drive and currency. I have a currency that is 800 pounds now and out of a first calf heifer and he is pretty good being that he struggled early.

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Re: Hereford Breeders!
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2012, 07:27:55 PM »
hard drive and currency. I have a currency that is 800 pounds now and out of a first calf heifer and he is pretty good being that he struggled early.

How is Currency for frame? I had a friend tell me that he throws tall calves. One of my cows is a bit tall and could use some moderation.
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2012, 07:34:35 PM »
H/T Crossfire.. hands down, IMB..\

I plan to buy a Herf this year--- and he'll be my lead AI bull...


This guy? http://www.cattlevisions.com/Hereford/HT_Crossfire.php I'm guessing he's had some pretty good calves for you to be recommending him!  ;D

The last Hereford bull we had tore thorugh the fence, had crappy calves and was just a general pain in the butt... So now the only male Herefords that live in my barn are stored in my semen tank! Where are you thinking about purchasing one from?


yes that is him.. had a southerner point me towards him...  Big believer- I like the way that bull looks- like what I've seen from the Summit cattle-- and have thought about using Crossfire's sire for a couple years on some black cows...  I just have that feeling about this one..

Who purchase from_ depends who has one cheap, and better than average..  have an idea of a old SP'er in northern IN- and have a friend who's a herf deluxe sending me to some people in N IL>


Would that bull make better females or steers? I try to show the females more than the males, and if anything ,the bulls are shown cow/calf. I don't do the steer deal...If you couldn't already tell!  ;)

Good luck trying to find a bull! Is he one you would breed your dairy animals to, or your beef ones? I thought you had mentioned something about looking for a red bull to breed to your dairy heifers. I had a good 1/4 holstein 1/4 simmental and 1/2 Hereford cross that has some awesome calves..she's not very pretty though, but shes a worker.
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Re: Hereford Breeders!
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2012, 08:01:07 PM »
Your p606 and Bogart lines will give you some good thickness with a high maternal and milk line bull choices depend on what you plan on doing with the calves does it matter to you about horns or polled if this doesn't matter you have alot more to chose from go to the hereford web site and look these bulls up and see what breeders are using just because they are in a semen catalog does not make them any good   Let us know what your wanting to do with calves

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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2012, 08:08:13 PM »

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Re: Hereford Breeders!
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2012, 08:47:42 PM »
hard drive and currency. I have a currency that is 800 pounds now and out of a first calf heifer and he is pretty good being that he struggled early.

How is Currency for frame? I had a friend tell me that he throws tall calves. One of my cows is a bit tall and could use some moderation.
He is in the pen with my carpe diem out of our vortec cow. 50 days ago the carpe diem was 25 pounds hevier the currency out weighs him by 30 pounds now. Growth has been amazing. As for him being tall. Not so much but his mother isnt a monst stall cow shes a purebred hereford too.

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Re: Hereford Breeders!
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2012, 11:21:58 PM »
I have either used or are going to use most of the bulls on your list. So I have done my homework on them from what I have found out.

Thor- Great muscle. real stout. a bit short fronted. I have seen no daughters out of him in production yet. (I'm sure there are some tho)
Durango- Very deep bodied. Good to breed to first calf heifers. May throw a little more white.. I have found they are either really good or average. No tweeners.

Currency- Very good bull. We showed a heifer out of him last summer that had a ton of growth and bred back to calve at 20 months. UNBELIEVEABLE hair.
Hard Drive- Only got 1 heifer out of him. We have a steer we will show this summer tho. a little frammy, but good muscle. I would question thier milk but I have only seen a hand full. Also the ones I have had are a little "ranchy".
p606- Very good. Makes great cows. Where I work, they have a really nice one. Some I have seen have a little more white on them than I would expect. I might not put him real high on the showring produceing list but definatly makes good cows.

A couple of other bulls you may want to try are : Purple Womanizer- Very stout, huge bellied. Maybe not the soundest but makes killer steers and good heifers.
                                                                              Crane Circle D Slugger- New bull for 2012. A very moderate, stout inexpensive bull. I think he is right for the times.  I know we are using him.


As for the other bulls on your list.. If you want Tundra influenced cattle I personally would use Wyarno over that tundra son you had listed. I think he will have a much bigger impact down the road.

These are just my observations through the years, I am by no means an expert.










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Re: Hereford Breeders!
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2012, 08:31:50 AM »
Not purebred but this bull intrigues me a bunch.  Young and unproven but combines 2 proven lines.  The C17 cow is a good one.  Maternal as they get and has produced a bunch of good ones including Whiplash, backlash, Radar, Aftershock.... and the list goes on.  The bull is out of Summit 8103 so it is hard to think that he will be anything but good.  I am going to try him on some red cows this spring. 

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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2012, 08:42:46 AM »
H/T Crossfire.. hands down, IMB..\

Would that bull make better females or steers? I try to show the females more than the males, and if anything ,the bulls are shown cow/calf. I don't do the steer deal...If you couldn't already tell!  ;)

Prob steers-- but I'd think he'd change a bunch of average Herf cows for the better--  I'd use him for both- IMO.  I've seen quite a few slab sided worthless Herf cows over the years.

Good luck trying to find a bull! Is he one you would breed your dairy animals to, or your beef ones? I thought you had mentioned something about looking for a red bull to breed to your dairy heifers. I had a good 1/4 holstein 1/4 simmental and 1/2 Hereford cross that has some awesome calves..she's not very pretty though, but shes a worker.

I don't want a herf bull-- I want a Herf heifer/ cow...  But yest, I'd breed our RA/ MS cross heifers to a herf bull-- the red ones anyways


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Re: Hereford Breeders!
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2012, 12:05:28 PM »
Your p606 and Bogart lines will give you some good thickness with a high maternal and milk line bull choices depend on what you plan on doing with the calves does it matter to you about horns or polled if this doesn't matter you have alot more to chose from go to the hereford web site and look these bulls up and see what breeders are using just because they are in a semen catalog does not make them any good   Let us know what your wanting to do with calves
As stated earlier, I am looking for showy type calves. I bred to P606 this year to get some good females as a base. I would like to have polled animals, but if there is a good horned bull I would be willing to try. I have talked to some breeders and went to Star Lake Ranch a few years ago and purchased my Bogart semen there after looking at their bull line up and calves. I only buy semen on a Hereford Bull if I have heard good reports and have seen good calves due to the fact that I have a limited hereford population to experiment with. This also means that I do my homework on each bull very carefully before I buy, and that's why im trying to find some opinions form breeders on here.

Thanks for the replies and suggestions, everyone! More are welcome! (thumbsup)
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