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Re: Hill Haven Fire Storm 28C
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2017, 03:19:30 PM »
Thanks we really like him he is going to be breeding all are donor cows that aren't related to him. Also the better cows in the herd. The few calves we do have look the part thick and hairy. His 3 full sisters will be a sale feature this fall in our sale. He looks even better now than he did last fall. Have had a lot of people purchase semen on him so far this spring.

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Re: Hill Haven Fire Storm 28C
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2017, 03:24:06 PM »
He looks good but you should breed him to everything from for what little my opinions worth. Find out how good he really is my best cows would have a good calf if I bred them to a goat I think! 😂

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Re: Hill Haven Fire Storm 28C
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2017, 03:32:35 PM »
He will get his fair share of cows forsure. We just have a very extensive embryo program so a lot of cows get eggs first. Plus we have a lot of Swagger and Waco daughters in the herd also.

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Re: Hill Haven Fire Storm 28C
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2017, 09:27:21 AM »
I have already flushed 2 donors to Fire Storm and am planning a few more flushes to him this spring. I am already planning to order more semen. As I said earlier, this bull is the real deal. When he showed at Agribition, I had a couple well known breeders in another popular breed tell me, that they wished they had a bull like him in their breed.
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Re: Hill Haven Fire Storm 28C
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2018, 10:01:09 PM »
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Firestorm ended his show career last fall winning Supreme champion bull over all breeds at the Royal Winter Fair in Toronto Canada. Then went to the Canadian western agribtion and was selected Canadian National Champion bull and went on to make the top 10 RBC Supreme. Calf reports have been awesome.
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Re: Hill Haven Fire Storm 28C
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2019, 01:56:35 PM »
Do you have any data on his sexed semen conception rates? I am considering using him on my shorthorn cattle. His video and EPDs are impressive. Nice bull!

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Re: Hill Haven Fire Storm 28C
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2019, 02:47:49 PM »
We are loving our firestorm heifer calves we got last year and so far this year. We didnt get the Sexed semen til late last breeding season so didnt get a chance to use it ourselves but a guy bought 2 straws and went 2 for 2 for heifer pregnancies. If you look up sexing technologies website you can findout all the info on the sexed ultra 4M semen quality.

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Re: Hill Haven Fire Storm 28C
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2019, 03:35:40 PM »
Great! I may give it a try then. I have purchased conventional this year so I may try it with my spring calves. Thank you for your help!

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Re: Hill Haven Fire Storm 28C
« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2019, 09:03:55 AM »
Progeny pics
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Re: Hill Haven Fire Storm 28C
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2019, 08:03:56 PM »
I have been impressed with Fire Storm since I first saw him and have been using his semen in our ET program since it became available. I have just ordered another 20 straws, which makes 90 straws that I have used so far. I expect I will be using more in the future.
It seems that word is getting around the world as to how good Fire Storm and his offspring are, as I can hardly keep embryos sired by him in inventory. In the past two weeks I have had emails from Argentina and Chile asking only about Fire Storm embryos. I have already sent embryos by him to Australia, the UK and Ireland. A couple months ago, I posted a note on my facebook page offering a set of Fire Storm embryos and within minutes of posting, they sold to a breeder in Australia. I got real lucky, in that I found a tank that was being shipped to Australia that had room and we were able to get them to the buyer in a few days.  I am liking the calves I have seen from him as well
I was very fortunate to have been asked to be a judge of the Supreme Champions at the Royal Winter Fair in Toronto in 2017. I thought Fire Storm was easily the winner, but I did wonder if a few people would accuse me of being partial to my own breed if I voted for him. It really wasn't a concern, as when the votes were in, every judge had picked him as Supreme Champion bull. The judges came from across Canada and the US, and some of them told me he was the best Shorthorn bull they had seen in years. I have a full sister to Fire Storm here that will be entering our ET program this spring.
Matt, Dale and Bob, you should be very proud of breeding and developing a sire like Fire Storm. I think he is a real breed improver!
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Re: Hill Haven Fire Storm 28C
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2019, 08:18:16 AM »
I have a Firestone heifer born 2 days ago
Matt says she looks pretty good.

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Re: Hill Haven Fire Storm 28C
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2019, 06:13:48 AM »
 What are the birthwts like. Ive heard some pretty scary reports here and there RE Waco-on US Genetics-which can be prone to calving problems O0

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Re: Hill Haven Fire Storm 28C
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2019, 08:28:33 AM »
I am not hearing any horror stories about calving problems from Fire Storm here in Canada. Of course, if there are birth weight issues, the sires almost always gets the blame. A few years ago, I purchased some semen from a well known calving ease trait leader, and I used a few straws. I had two bull calves born and I castrated both because they were over my own rule of any bull calf over 110 lbs gets banded at birth no matter how good they are. These two calves were the only two I banded in that calf crop. I don't think it was only because of the sire.  I wish we could have an easier way to discuss calving ease besides by using birth weights. Birth weights are a component of calving ease, but as a leading cattle buyer said to me, " if I wanted lighter birth weights, the first thing I would do is select genetics that would produce shorter bodied calves". To me, this makes some sense. I have been told that taking 1 inch out of the rib of a new born calf represents 8-10 lbs, I have never been able to find research to prove if this is correct or not, but one person told me that Oregon State did some research that found this to be true.
Getting back to Fire Storm, I am pretty sure that we would be hearing about the horror stories if they were happening out there. So far, I have heard none. In regards to his sire, Waco, I looked back in my calving records and I have had 8 Waco sired calves born here. All unassisted with BWs of 90-102 lbs.
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Re: Hill Haven Fire Storm 28C
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2019, 10:31:35 AM »
Blah blah blah  your post need to include a disclaimer that your cows are 500-800lbs bigger than most and that you regularly use the very highest birthweight genetics IN THE ENTIRE BREED.  This preface would provide some CONTEXT to your bullshit comments about birthweight.

Just the other day on Facebook, JIT was prompting a bull as a potential heifer bull option. Bayview Unique is the bulls name.  Per the bulls home country registry, this bull is in the very bottom of the breed for both calving ease and birthweight.  With high accuracies nonetheless.   As opposed to using THE ONLY INFORMATION AVAILABLE on the bull, JIT instead injects more salesman bullshit and chooses to pass the dystopia risk on to the googly eyed unsuspecting.     Additional, immediately after this fb convo I got an email stating that the only calf born in Canada do date out of this particular bull was cranked out with a calf puller!  Thats a fact. 

Waco has huge birthweights.  Thats a fact.  This bull in this post is gonna have huge birthweights too.  How absurd is it to suggest that one specimen within a population is the exception to the entire lineage!! This bull and any other bred like him is gonna throw calves that revert to those all within the pedigree. Hello erratic birthweight city.   No one gives a **** about your anecdotes JIT.   There are literally hundreds of calves born across the country and in many times THE WORLD that dispute the opinions of a bullshit salesman like you.  Ive talked to two people in S America who both told me MAJOR LEROY was the biggest birthweight bull they ever used. And these arent pissants.  Im talking people with hundreds of cows.  Myself and another guy in Texas used 2 different Major Leroy sons, and just like the S Americans experience with his sire,, these bulls had the largest bw calves either of us had as well.   The dishonesty of those LIKE YOU are the exact reason EPDS were created: to dilute your word and your reportings in favor of reportings from those who prefer HONESTY. 
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Re: Hill Haven Fire Storm 28C
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2019, 10:45:04 AM »
I have been impressed with Fire Storm since I first saw him and have been using his semen in our ET program since it became available. I have just ordered another 20 straws, which makes 90 straws that I have used so far.  I think he is a real breed improver!

90 straws youve used? Ninety? 9-0?  How many cows do you have JIT? What did you donflush them all twice?  ::)

Specifically what SH breed traits will this bull improve?  Birthweight, calving ease, fleshing ability, milk, marbling, fertility?  Because I have a pretty middle of the road herd of cows and this bulls infusion would worsen each of these traits I mentioned.  So again Ill ask: what would this breed improver  be improving?
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