Steer Planet - Show Steers and Club Calves Forum

Hey guys I was wonderin if anyone knew of the impact that a recip has on a calf other than providing nutrients. Such as input to color, bone, and make up such as color markings? Thanks

As far as genetics go -- absolutely NONE

The overall health and well being of the new born calf is of course up to the mother who gestated it -- but as far as any structure or color, no way can she change or affect the chromosomal makeup of the calf already formed at embryo transfer to the recip! She only has the general growth and well being of what was made early in her control.

Terry

Agree with OH Breeder on temperament from recip!  Would be curious if anyone has put flushmates in a docile recip and a rip?!?  Or used a high docile number bull doing the same thing. 

I would also say the recip can affect the temperament of the calf. I have done a few ET matings and when the momma is a bugger the calf takes some work. One recip I personally had was just mean. I got rid of her and the calf we could never break him. No scientific data just my little bit of experience.

I agree with you but that is the nuture part not nature. Nature is done the moment the semen enters the egg, nothing changing that. The temperment is nuture part. I also think if we cloned some older genetics with the high fiber feed we are using now that they would look different just by the feed.

So... what about clones then..... you are using a clone "egg" extracting dna nuclei and putting a cell of the clone "donor" in....  it is very minimal....    just wondering everyone's thoughts also.

The differences in clones and the animal they were cloned from are environmental.  Their DNA is identical.

Interesting on the temperament part, hand't ever thought of that but can see how it's possible! 

A spelling mistake, so sorry you couldnt figure it out, spell check was acting up when I posted.  Nurture