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Re: JIT AND WERNICKE STRIKE AGAIN
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2020, 07:53:58 AM »
Clip jobs to look apple butted.

I guess thats a better reason for getting rid of hair shows instead of leveling the playing field.
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Re: JIT AND WERNICKE STRIKE AGAIN
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2020, 08:24:42 AM »
Hes terminal looking because hes thick? You are in the wrong breed-you need native cattle O0



it's easier for people to read your comments if you put the previous quote in "quotes", then follow outside with your comments. i get it you won't do it. any time a bull is presented as a show steer, one plants the see that he's a show steer bull, not a breeding bull.//// Little spell check is in order there Bucko O0

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Re: JIT AND WERNICKE STRIKE AGAIN
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2020, 08:45:58 AM »
The only hair i see of any proportion is on his lower !/4 The rest is clearly pretty tight -Clip job to look apple butted?-Play it again"He was clipped"-Apple butt is an illiterate red neck term to possibly describe double muscling and or possible looks of myo or the posterior of a gurl who shore can carry some farrrr wood -The fact he was clipped for a picture has nothing to do with it  I dont see any analogy at all O0

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Re: JIT AND WERNICKE STRIKE AGAIN
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2020, 01:10:48 PM »
i now know you weren't interested in anything.
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Re: JIT AND WERNICKE STRIKE AGAIN
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2020, 02:00:01 PM »
???? I am interested in some people seeing my friends bull-Not everybody has to like him-Just have the basic Shorthorn knowledge to figure out what he is and the cattle he comes from-Ive used or seen  alot of the ones listed in his pedigree  going back 25 years-Known Wernickes longer than that Anyone can scrabble for any kind of cliches to try and down an animal-Enough people like him that my lesson is simple-It takes all kinds-Like my original post "If he works etc" he could be useful-Id rather let the calves do the pontificating and there will be at least a few with 100 plus straws already spoken for  O0

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Re: JIT AND WERNICKE STRIKE AGAIN
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2020, 03:32:40 PM »
On both CSA and ASA there is a tab that shows any DNA testing that has been done. It is a really good feature for those wanting to avoid a genetic condition. I think more breeders should insist on these tests for potential herd bulls and especially AI sires. In this bull's case he has been tested for everything including the 50K. If more breeders did the testing we would see higher accuracies.
Also thsi bull's dam has some calving ease, she is sired by a Haumont bull and CF Prosperity was not only one of the first Trump bulls used but also probably of the better and most consistent lower birth weight sires from that breeding.

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Re: JIT AND WERNICKE STRIKE AGAIN
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2020, 04:36:58 PM »
Just have the basic Shorthorn knowledge to figure out what he is and the cattle he comes from-


Id rather let the calves do the pontificating and there will be at least a few with 100 plus straws already spoken for  O0

It is this knowledge, both of JIT and of the pedigree, that is specifically the reason I, nor anyone else whose program I value, would ever consider using him. 

   

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Re: JIT AND WERNICKE STRIKE AGAIN
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2020, 05:03:44 PM »
The world no longer cares that you bought a bull that didnt work out-and based upon some of the breeding behind your cows that Ive seen here and there they were half of the equation and genetics from back in thier peds probably had something to do with it Even though they did not have issues with other genetics This is just like everybody elses cattle: they just dont continue to have  hissy fits ad nauseum Enough other  people are familiar with the cattle other than just Hot commodity behind him and   he will be used on a variety of types-And like anything else-Its the calves not: conjecture, nor numbers without real world experience; that will show if hes useful- Certainly not some cry baby vendetta The comments by the Canadian breeder above are pretty valid-and so is his program-which has been around a long time Even the Australian bull and the Proud Venture bull-were documented cattle for thier respective times-thats pretty much the entire pedigree when you include the first three- Haumont, Hot Commodity and Prosperity-if you "knew where to look LOL" (butchered a quote I stole from Knabe re finding a bull like this from the respondants to this post) you will probably find some of Okotoks breeding or cattle he has used  in your herd So now that he is an official respondant-we have the only breeder on this thread JMO that would have a long yearling bull MUCH MORE THAN  REMOTELY in the league of the subject animal PS lets see your long yearling bull(s) O0
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