Joint sipplements!

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newcomer

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What is the best joint supplement that can't be traced in a drug test? I have a steer that walks a little stuff in his stifle! Wondering about lubrisyrn haven't heard much about it but what I have heard it works well! Just wondering what fellow producers opinions are!
 

Tallcool1

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I am not familiar with it.

I hate to say this because I am sure it will raise a lot of dander......but here we go anyway.  I am not 100% convinced that any of the joint supplements work for show steers.

I can certainly see how it could work on a horse because horses are in effect athletes and subject to repetitive motion and excessive work related ailments. 

We try to change the way they hit the ground with aggressive hoof trimming and trying to buy sound cattle to begin with.  If one is borderline too straight, we just don't buy them.  They are just too much work for me.

If someone recommends a supplement they believe in (such as rackranch), by all means give it a shot.  I am not saying they don't work...I am saying that I have not had personal experience that makes me a believer. 
 

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If a horse, human, ect. system can metabolize supplements and see results then why couldn't a show steer? Do you believe vitamins work at all? If so then why wouldn't it be beneficial?

Tallcool1 said:
I am not familiar with it.

I hate to say this because I am sure it will raise a lot of dander......but here we go anyway.  I am not 100% convinced that any of the joint supplements work for show steers.

I can certainly see how it could work on a horse because horses are in effect athletes and subject to repetitive motion and excessive work related ailments. 

We try to change the way they hit the ground with aggressive hoof trimming and trying to buy sound cattle to begin with.  If one is borderline too straight, we just don't buy them.  They are just too much work for me.

If someone recommends a supplement they believe in (such as rackranch), by all means give it a shot.  I am not saying they don't work...I am saying that I have not had personal experience that makes me a believer.
 

Tallcool1

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rackranch said:
If a horse, human, ect. system can metabolize supplements and see results then why couldn't a show steer? Do you believe vitamins work at all? If so then why wouldn't it be beneficial?

Tallcool1 said:
I am not familiar with it.

I hate to say this because I am sure it will raise a lot of dander......but here we go anyway.  I am not 100% convinced that any of the joint supplements work for show steers.

I can certainly see how it could work on a horse because horses are in effect athletes and subject to repetitive motion and excessive work related ailments. 

We try to change the way they hit the ground with aggressive hoof trimming and trying to buy sound cattle to begin with.  If one is borderline too straight, we just don't buy them.  They are just too much work for me.

If someone recommends a supplement they believe in (such as rackranch), by all means give it a shot.  I am not saying they don't work...I am saying that I have not had personal experience that makes me a believer.

I do believe that vitamins work, but not to fix a structure issue. 

The reason I believe that a joint supplement would work on a horse is because the treatment is for the purpose of combating the effects of overuse, soreness, or more simply put (for lack of a better term) an injury.  This supplement would be administered over a long period of time.

I believe that basically, a show steer has an 18 month life expectancy.  If a steer is showing signs of stiffness this time of the year, then he is likely 14 months old or less, and is weighing 1000 pounds or less.  To me, this is a sign of a structure issue.  I don't believe that a supplement will fix a structure issue, BASED UPON MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.  Natural Stride, Selenium, and Glide are what I have experience with.

Once again, I am not saying that a joint supplement will not work.  I am saying that the hundreds and hundreds of dollars (probably in excess of $1000 but that isn't the point) that I have spent on supplements have not made a believer out of me. 

 

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I do believe that the supplements have some effect, I do not believe they will fix a structure problem.
I think if an animal has a slight hitch in their get along they can help, I don't think their going to help an animal that has bigger issues. I know people who swear by Lubrisyn (or it's generick contour part) but it is not something you can just give at the end it is something you have to start early on stick with.

We had one with that they helped did not make him perfect but did make him better, without it he may have been a wreck, did not take the chance.

Along with supplements they need to get out and move, I think more problems arise this time of year since animals are starting to be tied, stalled or put in a cooler about this time of year, they tend to start showing problems. Make sure they have plenty of room to get out and move when they get kicked out at night, if you do not have a large run, get out and walk them for at least a good half hour or so before penning for the night. I think the exercise is key to staying sound.
 

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Yes, and the OP said he was just a little stiff in the stifle, so that is why I recommended it.  I see plenty of train wrecks as a show steer Chiropractor and have told many people that such and such additive will not help.
 

ferkj

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The generic name is hyaluronic acid.  I havent found generic in bulk liquid (gallons) only in capsule form which is a pain to deal with.
 
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