JT President 5B (Kaper 4508)

Shorthorn-Fed · Jun 12, 2018

Here is a home raised 4 year old son of Kaper 4508. He was a first calf for JT Clipper 8Z and we have used him extensively on heifers. Very easy calving and has made attractive, hard working females. He has been a great heifer bull for us.

Russ

CAB · Jun 12, 2018

That is a great looking bull!! <rock> <beer>
He's one that makes me think about breeding some SH.

mark tenenbaum · Jun 13, 2018

That breeding really works on Canadian cattle-you can see both. Hed be good on hard made hard doing lines of popular show breeding and especially good on ANY clubby cattle black .charx, double Visions etc. O0

764wdchev · Jun 13, 2018

Just from pictures, he looks to be longer spined and deeper in his quarter than Kaper 4508.

mark tenenbaum · Jun 13, 2018

764wdchev said:
Just from pictures, he looks to be longer spined and deeper in his quarter than Kaper 4508./// gets that from the canadian side-he has the smooth made profile like the caper cattle-see it a mile away O0

Shorthorn-Fed · Jun 14, 2018

764wdchev said:
Just from pictures, he looks to be longer spined and deeper in his quarter than Kaper 4508.

To me he patterns a lot like his sire but I have only seen 4508 in pictures and sometimes the “ in person” view can be different. His dam has become quite a good cow on the farm and actually just flushed a dozen grade 1 embryos last week to Stockman.

aj · Jun 14, 2018

Semen?

Shorthorn-Fed · Jun 14, 2018

aj said:
Semen?

No he has never been export drawn. Being in Manitoba the closest export qualifying stud is 10+ hours away!

r.n.reed · Jun 20, 2018

My opinion might be considered biased but I sure like your bull.He looks quite familiar.

Shorthorn-Fed · Jun 21, 2018

r.n.reed said:
My opinion might be considered biased but I sure like your bull.He looks quite familiar.

Thanks Gary, the amount of daughters we have keep makes it tricky to sort breeding pastures for the yearling females but imo that’s a good problem to have.

r.n.reed · Jun 21, 2018

Yes a good problem indeed.We have been stacking his sire in our pedigrees using great grandsons this year on his daughters,granddaughters,and great grandaughters and some of those are double bred.

Shorthorn-Fed · Jun 22, 2018

I think lining him up through the pedigree would be pretty good. Are you double stacking with another bull in there as well? Who do you plan to inject for your future “ inline outcross vigour” on the stacked 4508?

aj · Jun 22, 2018

R.N. i might be interested in the bulls you raise in the future. I should have bought that Kaper son that sold at Marty's sale but I bought a different lot. Craig Hoyt Brewster Ks.

IGSLukeBowman · Jun 22, 2018

IMO the "JT" prefix could be the next big thing in the North American Shorthorn biz......

r.n.reed · Jun 22, 2018

Shorthorn-Fed said:
I think lining him up through the pedigree would be pretty good. Are you double stacking with another bull in there as well? Who do you plan to inject for your future “ inline outcross vigour” on the stacked 4508?

Since the start of our herd we have made it a practice to follow up a successful herd sire with homebred sons across the herd so naturally those former herd sires influence is being concentrated with the use of 4508 and his homebred decendents since he was out of a homebred cow. I always have my eyes open for that next building block but I still think i have more room yet with the 4508 line.I have my eye on a calf born here this spring by Frontline(4508 son) and out of a 6 year old 4508 daughter who has qualified as a pacer performance dam.Her dam is 11 years old and still active and she received the pacer performance award last year.

Okotoks · Jun 23, 2018

JT President 5B is a great looking bull! I really like his length and smoothness especially his length of hip!

Shorthorn-Fed · Jun 24, 2018

Here is a first calver out of him JT Clipper 60D. The dam is a Coalpit Creek Leader 6th

Russ

Duncraggan · Jun 27, 2018

Shorthorn-Fed said:
764wdchev said:

Just from pictures, he looks to be longer spined and deeper in his quarter than Kaper 4508.

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To me he patterns a lot like his sire but I have only seen 4508 in pictures and sometimes the “ in person” view can be different. His dam has become quite a good cow on the farm and actually just flushed a dozen grade 1 embryos last week to Stockman.

Good choice!

mark tenenbaum · Jun 27, 2018

Did JT Titan come from Shorthorn fed-As I remember from pics he was wide made O0

Shorthorn-Fed · Jun 27, 2018

mark tenenbaum said:
Did JT Titan come from Shorthorn fed-As I remember from pics he was wide made O0

Titan was bred and raised by my dad who holds the JT prefix. On a side note we have ( in my opinion) a pretty good 2 year old Florence heifer out of Titan who has a Yesterday calf on her. The pair will most likely be coming on the show road this fall.

Russ

JT President 5B (Kaper 4508)

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