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Maternal Simi bull that will add hair
« on: December 30, 2010, 11:06:48 AM »
Any thoughts on which simi bull would be the best choice to make females while adding hair? Thanks.

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Re: Maternal Simi bull that will add hair
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2010, 11:19:31 AM »
The best haired simmys I've seen have been dream ons he also has a great set of maternal numbers but then again he was used to the hilt but they're still pretty tough

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Re: Maternal Simi bull that will add hair
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2010, 11:53:55 AM »
I wish I would have collected our 1/2 Simmi 1/2 Galloway blk blaze face  bull from the late 1980's.  He did just what CAB is lokking for. ;)
Galloways- The breed to produce the hardier crossbred cow.

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Re: Maternal Simi bull that will add hair
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2010, 11:59:11 AM »
I wish I would have collected our 1/2 Simmi 1/2 Galloway blk blaze face  bull from the late 1980's.  He did just what CAB is lokking for. ;)

I wonder what a 3/4 sim x 1/4 gallowaywould look like.

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Re: Maternal Simi bull that will add hair
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2010, 12:02:21 PM »
I'm actually hoping to find a PB Simi bull so that the calves will be foundation.

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Re: Maternal Simi bull that will add hair
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2010, 12:21:06 PM »
I wish I would have collected our 1/2 Simmi 1/2 Galloway blk blaze face  bull from the late 1980's.  He did just what CAB is lokking for. ;)

I wonder what a 3/4 sim x 1/4 gallowaywould look like.

We had some, now you have to remember these were the traditional red and white simmental.  Most of the calves were black blaze faces, as our simmi bulls were goggle eyed.  Parisian breeding if I rememer correctly.   I have some pics of our 1/2 sim 1/4 hereford 1/4 galloway females.  I will see if I can scan them.  They looked an awful lot like the black blaze face club calf moms you see today.
Galloways- The breed to produce the hardier crossbred cow.

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Re: Maternal Simi bull that will add hair
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2010, 01:23:08 PM »
Well I sure wouldn't consider Dream On a maternally oriented bull unless you are comparing him to maybe Heatwave.  I have used Trademark quite a bit and the females make wonderful cows plus they all seem to have lots of hair.

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Re: Maternal Simi bull that will add hair
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2010, 01:30:51 PM »
i used Trademark this year for Foundation cattle.  I bred him mostly to carrier females with the hope of producing some salable half bloods that might also work as cows.  I also used SVF/NJC High Voltage on heifers.  Both are purebreds.  I would also look at Built Right for momma cows.

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Re: Maternal Simi bull that will add hair
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2010, 02:08:33 PM »
Huh that must be why those dream on half blood hiefers never brought anything (except a pile of$) pretty sure I wouldn't use trademark for fear of gutless cripples

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Re: Maternal Simi bull that will add hair
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2010, 02:10:18 PM »
If you can find it and are willing to pay the price Wheatland bull 131L, "Teddy", is backed by a great cow family and adds hair like no other simmi.

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Re: Maternal Simi bull that will add hair
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2010, 03:15:38 PM »
Steel force or dreamcatcher possibly charmont vendetta he had just a striking cool look

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Re: Maternal Simi bull that will add hair
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2010, 03:22:22 PM »
Well I sure wouldn't consider Dream On a maternally oriented bull unless you are comparing him to maybe Heatwave.  I have used Trademark quite a bit and the females make wonderful cows plus they all seem to have lots of hair.

But you said this on your web site   "The Dream On females out of Cissy are in production now and are making great cows" So which is it? Just kiddin , but i have never seen many Trademarks that would work for me.
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Re: Maternal Simi bull that will add hair
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2010, 08:15:51 PM »
Well I sure wouldn't consider Dream On a maternally oriented bull unless you are comparing him to maybe Heatwave.  I have used Trademark quite a bit and the females make wonderful cows plus they all seem to have lots of hair.

But you said this on your web site   "The Dream On females out of Cissy are in production now and are making great cows" So which is it? Just kiddin , but i have never seen many Trademarks that would work for me.

You are keeping me on my toes, Mooch. Yes, the Dream Ons out of my Cissy donor made great cows.  The dam is a big part of the equation.  With a minus 5 or so for maternal milk, Dream on is about as low as it gets in the breed for adding milk so the dam has to do it if you want to raise females that can go beyond the showring and raise good calves.  DM makes great show heifers for sure but will they milk?  The question was about bulls that are materal and will add hair.  I can think of other materal bulls in the breed that I like better but they don't seem to add hair.

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Re: Maternal Simi bull that will add hair
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2010, 06:25:08 PM »
we always had problems with fertility in the dream on daughters we owned, no longer own any and havent ever bred to him for that exact reason
If it don't fit, force it.
If it breaks, it needed fixed anyways

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Re: Maternal Simi bull that will add hair
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2010, 07:50:50 PM »
Any of of Simi breeders care to chime in please? Thanks.

 

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